• BilSabab@lemmy.world
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    Maybe Will Smith actually tried to read Baudrillard to get a grip on some basic concepts behind the movie. However, english translations of Baudrillard are fucking awful and borderline unreadable (common issue with scary french philosophers for some reason) so he gave up. Also - fuck Will Smith. Denzel should’ve starred in The Enemy of the State.

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    He slapped a man on national television because he made a joke about his wife. That wasn’t even a mean joke, it was just in somewhat bad taste. (He was also laughing at the joke until he saw his wife roll her eyes at it)

    He is quite dumb

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      Strongly agree. As an actor Will Smith always brings some sass to movies. I feel like he would’ve ruined a few scenes. Especially him teasing Agent Smith unnecessarily.

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      A cool thing about being tone deaf is that I can’t tell who voices who.

      A sad thing is I can’t tell hot water vs cold water being poured. Finding out people could do that seemed like a super power to me.

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          I can hear, I just hear things more monotone.

          I can tell accents and volume levels apart though. Tonal languages are very difficult.

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        I usually just wait for a subtle hints of steam building up inside the boiler. To be clear, i think shark tale is really not bad, at all. But it’s weird. I have a dvd of this movie

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      I mean, he’s picked plenty of bangers.

      Sometimes there’s scheduling conflicts. Sometimes a director casts a wide net, knowing he’s going to get a bunch of rejections. Sometimes you get roped into a project as a favor or a quid pro quo (Vin Disel coming back for a cameo in FF: Tokyo Drift to get Chronicles of Riddick made, only to end up making nine more movies and counting) and it changes your career.

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      The casting for Matrix was stellar. Even the mid-tier sequels had some incredible performances on their own merit. Possible Smith recognized he wasn’t a good fit and passed on it. Also possible he picked up on the underlying themes too well and got freaked out (there’s plenty of speculation that Smith has been in the closet going back decades).

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    Sean Connery turned down both Gandalf in Lord of the Rings and Morpheus in The Matrix because he didn’t understand the scripts. He turned down Dumbledore in Harry Potter because it was too fantastical. Then he tried a reverse approach where he accepted the next role he didn’t understand, because clearly that was where the money was at. So he accepted Allan Quartermain in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, a movie which flopped hard. Then he ragequit the industry and retired.

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      I just want to see the whole “AI Will Smith chewing” video posted into some Matrix parts now. Someone make it happen. I believe in you.

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      Agreed, but I also firmly believe there is another universe in which we could believably type “Keanu Reeves would have been disastrous in The Matrix”

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        It would have been a very different movie. So, maybe people couldn’t picture Keanu in that forgettable action comedy called The Matrix. But, Keanu did show he could do comedy. His first big movie was Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure. He’d also done Parenthood. In addition, he’d shown he could do action movies / thrillers with a bit of comedy when he did Speed, and fairly serious action movies with Point Break.

        Will Smith has done plenty of action movies, but all of them are at least somewhat comedic. He’s shown he can do serious roles too, like Happyness, 7 Pounds, etc. But, I don’t think you’d hire him for a science fiction action movie without having him do some comedy. I’m sure Will Smith could do a straight dramatic science fiction action movie with no comedy, but AFAIK he’s never done it.

        IMO Keanu is a much more limited actor than Will Smith. But, The Matrix played to his strengths.

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      I get what you mean/agree, but to play devil’s advocate, his character in Enemy of the State could’ve sorta worked as Neo.

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      well , excuse me for the AI haters out there. But we gotta do this.

      Seedance, c’mon boy, DO IT!!!

      Will Smith as NEO in the Matrix.

      EDIT: I found one, a year old but it checks out

      It’s a reddit post

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        It’s just an infinite number of Will Smiths eating an infinite amount of spaghetti.

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    Some people are not set up for science fiction or fantasy at all. Will Smith is a borderline case, though.

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      I think with The Matrix specifically it has to do with the physicality. Late 90s Will Smith was in shape and could do big, bombastic action, but I can’t imagine him doing precise martial arts moves without it looking like a comedy.

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        Thats what we all said about Keanu. He was a joke at the time. Or rather basically type cast. Even in the more serious roles he was pretty goofy. Speed comes to mind. The Matrix gave me and many i know a bigger liking for the young silly Ted Logan.

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          Point Break? I think Keanu was a heart throb who could do action, but who had started in comedy. Will Smith was more a comedic actor who could do action, but was mostly doing action-comedy.

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    Listen I know he’s an asshole, we all saw the slap etc; but I would love to have seen a Will Smith Inception…. Remember how good enemy of the state was

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      Remember how good enemy of the state was

      Idk if you can compare the dynamic between Smith and Hackman against DiCaprio and Murphy. I don’t think DiCaprio needs to steal the scenes the same way Will Smith does.

      Also, Smith has done plenty of SciFi that was… mid. I am Legend worked in large part because Will Smith was acting against himself. As a lead in an ensemble cast - like in Suicide Squad - he’s not nearly as impressive.

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    IDK he might be, he certainly is a dick. but also you don’t usually get to read the whole script (definitely not the final script) before choosing to accept a role, they may only get a scene, maybe just an elevator pitch etc.

    • “It’s [current year] blazing saddles.”

      “It’s Martian manhunter but demon in a bottle”

      “It’s Dracula, but from Dracula’s perspective.”

      They’re interesting premises and easily understood. I can’t knock smith for choosing them. You never know what’ll end up on the editor’s floor. There might have been a better cut somewhere in there