Trying to combat drug addiction through policing has been proven ineffective time and time again. You may want to rethink that one.
Came to say this! Drug addicts need help, not jail. Sure, if they commit a crime police should be involved, but it’s not going to cure their addiction!
Idk. I’m a public bus driver, am in pretty consistent contact with drug users. Not to mention living in amongst them in the poorer areas of tow. I’m not saying we should arrest them and give them lengthy sentences, but just leaving them on the street ain’t working out.
I think a mandatory “time out” in a facility is in order. At least long enough to work the drugs out of their system. Maybe then they can try for a better way with a little clearer head.
But some days it feels like I’m living in a post apocalypse mad Max type place. It’s bullshit that they’re allowed to just trash anyplace they are. There’s what’s best for them, and there’s what’s best for the rest of us. There’s gotta be something done.
Edit: downvote me all you want, just leaving the problem to fester as we are now is neither kind nor progressive
Doing drugs is a crime tho.
This guy reminds teachers they forgot to give out homework…
I mean if you want to get specific what I really want is to remind police that doing drugs is illegal and they should focus on busting those people…instead of kids having fun on scooters
Kids having fun on scooters doing illegal things.
One is a felony the other a misdemeanor
Fun fact: Vancouver is in Canada, and in Canada there’s no such thing as a felony or a misdemeanor.
Busting drug addicts will do ZERO to help the drug and crime problems. Even law enforcers will tell you that.
Those problems are so much more complex, and require fundamental reforms in social policies, mental healthcare, education, youth programmes, city planning etc. And then there’s the issue of dealing with the gangs, smugglers and foreign organized syndicates bringing the stuff into the country.
Kids driving recklessly on scooters (which are often modified) are:
A) A danger to themselves
B) A danger to pedestrians they could crash into
C) A serious danger to cars that swerve to avoid them when they go out on the main road.
Being this stupid should be illegal.
So is what the kids are doing. So…?
Putting someone in timeout maybe works for three year olds but it doesn’t work for adults even if you hold them there 1000 times longer. Restitution and rehabilitation is a significantly more effective solution and results in much lower recidivism. Only reason to lock someone in a box is if they present a significant danger to the public, and that’s not to punish them, but to protect others.
So was helping slaves and Jewish people. Your point?
Also the cops handing out traffic tickets, and the cops doing narcotics investigations are different people.
This isn’t new either. A song was written about it 25 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4L20t8Dvlg
love me some oldschool SOAD songs
If you arrest the users they’ll give up the dealers
That’s policing 101
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Arresting drug addicts in the war on drugs is part of how the US ended up with 25% of the world’s prison population. End result? Same amount of drugs.
Criminalizing drug use does literally nothing except lead to the death of democracy.
Your percentage is off.
Recent sources put US prison population at ~2 million, with about that much under other supervision conditions.
US population is at ~342.75 million people.
Good call, got some wires crossed. The US contributes to 25% of the entire global prison population
And is ineffective. Didn’t you watch The Wire?
No I watched breaking bad
They went after the one drug user (badger) and eventually it led all the way up to the Heisenberg guy
dumbest comments I’ve seen all day are all from you
I was just thinking the same thing.
The farther down this thread I go the dumber they get
I’m just amazed how many people are on the side of the drug addicts
addicts need help not prison
Do you not remember his name?
Say my name
Mr. White?
SCIENCE! YEAH!
Ya Heisenberg
That widely known to not work that way.
Ok bootlicker
No no no. This is just building a prison pipeline.
You get people off drugs by building a society where people aren’t being oppressed and used as slaves. Not by putting them in jail and making their life worse.
Kids on the other hand aren’t fully mature and don’t realize that ‘just’ 30mph on a scooter can lead to a deadly crash pretty easily
Is that how Singapore got rid of their drug problems?
Yeah, when I think Singapore, I think utopia with no inequality or social pressures. The only thing bad is those pesky druggies that do simply because they’re bad people and want to do the bad drugs.
Remember that time we legalized cannabis and it had literally zero impact on society? Let’s do that with the rest of them too.
Some of them shouldn’t be used by anyone.
Krokadil comes to mind. Flocka…
Cops “going after” drug addicts? Like giving them help and treating them like humans?
Harm reduction and rehab centers where they can use in a safe environment is how you really help people addicted to drugs. Instead of locking them in a cage and pretending they don’t exist.
Also isn’t giving tickets to 12 years olds on illegal motorcycles a form of harm reduction?
The question is when, not if, those device will separate their life into a before, and an after, the accident.
I mean, they shouldn’t be going after drug addicts either.
this is a weird comparison
there are real criminals out there and OP chose drug addicts, a crime which by itself is just minding your own business
fuck, go after the drivers endangering countless people every day. far more dangerous than drug addicts that commit crimes that affect other people
Why would they give 12y old tickets? Don’t they have any newer ones?
They don’t update the forms often. Huge issue with the printer.
Counterpoint: parents should be given tickets for endangering their child’s lives by giving them something that can cause death or greivous injury - calling it a “toy” that goes 30+ mph ridden on public roads with no training, license, or obeying traffic signs and signals.
One of these days it’s going to be a lawmakers kid that is going to get turned into a meat crayon. Then we might just get some reasonable legislation. I hate that it pretty much has to come down to many children dying for meaningful change to take place.
USA reports 11 deaths under 16 and Canada 10
So 21 deaths in what 15 or 20 years these have been around
Probably around 1 per year
How many kids have been killed by drug users or drug dealers… probably more than 1 per Year
USA alone has so many drug related shootings they probably can’t even reliably track how many kids get shot
I wish.
Well if they would fix traffic infrastructure to support bicycles and other alternative transports they would have less of a problem with this.
in this case the police are correct
When Young Kenny cruises past
