Taking “will it run doom” one step too far.
We need to take it back a step and see if it’ll run Linux.
Asking someone to compile the kernel with their mind sure is one way to give someone a headache
A closer example would be if it could use the console in linux since it’s only playing dom not running it, I wonder if wetware would be any better as a coding assistant than ai
Is anyone else really skeeved out by the term “wetware”, or is that just me
playing dom
I do not think we should train a bioengineered intelligence with guns to do that.
Don’t kink shame
Hey human doms I’m 100% okay with, it’s these things I’m worried about
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/doom/images/2/27/Meet_spider.png/revision/latest
Can they run console commands?
Yeah now it’s “will it speedrun DOOM?”
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Maybe the real hell is the life we’ve lived along the way.
Maybe this experience is just a higher being’s analog of Doom and we’re just cells in a petri dish running an MMORPG version it. Stupidest simulation theory ever, but hey man, we’re sorta doing it so how stupid can it be?
Raises uncomfortable questions about consciousness. The only difference between these neurons and your own are the number of them and the structures they form. Of course it doesn’t know what it’s doing, but… Neither do our own neurons
Finally, I knew when I saved this to my phone there would be a perfect moment. (Humanity is too predictable)
Attribution: https://lemmy.world/post/43077529
OK but hear me out here, I think I have the beginnings of a business plan:
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Create the Torment Nexus
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Profit
Some components of the plan are still under development, but let’s not lose momentum. We can advance with the initial phase while brainstorming to refine the plan in real time as we progress. It’s an exciting opportunity and we mustn’t forfeit our first-to-market advantage.
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Wait is it a real cover? Was it made before or after squid game? It uses the same font
Cortical Labs are the ones who pulled this off. They already have biological computers running on 800,000 lab-grown neurons available for ~$35,000 (just going on what a quick Google search told me) and are planning to open up a cloud computing service with its own API soon.
This makes me feel uneasy. Imagine if reincarnation were a thing and you get brought back into this world, and your purpose is to learn how to play DOOM.
“Do lab grown neurons have a soul?”
I would say consciousness is required for that, so no.
aw sweet, man made horrors beyond my comprehension 😍
There’s another bunch of guys who are trying to do the same thing with rat neurons on the cheap using Gatorade as a growth medium.
Ha, i understand why it would make someone uneasy but personally that sounds like heaven to me. Seriously,.take a slice of my neurons and hook them up to play doom forever, that’s what I want done with my remains. (I guess the rest of me cremate or something idc)
We are old gods who punish life for fun.
So, uh… is it any good at it?
IIRC, it doesn’t actually pay the game itself. We prod the cells, they fire in a certain way and that response is read to convert it to an output for the game. The cells aren’t a rudimentary Doom bot, they’re the controller.
So no, then.
Iirc it’s slightly better than using a coin toss to fire the inputs. Fantastic for fundraising for this company tho
So we’re just going full head of steam into a combo of the torment nexus and AM
Torment Nexus but with a win condition
Ah I see, so we’re adding the matrix to our dystopian horror show reality then.
Am I the only one who wonders why, in a world where there are already concerns about machines rebellion, when we train rats, robots and a bench of neurons to play a game, it HAS to be Doom, we can’t think about another, non-violent, or let’s be bold: non-destructive game??
They trained a tiny patch of neurons to respond to low-voltage electric impulses. The cells don’t know they’re playing Doom. They don’t have any kind of social context or even video feedback.
Imagine if I stuck you in a sensory deprivation chamber, handed you an NES controller, and asked you to hit the buttons. Then, periodically, I said “Yes” or “No” based on the buttons you pressed. And when I pulled you out of the tube at the end of an hour, I told you “the yes and no messages were intended to encourage you to correctly navigate Mario through the first level of the original game.” What if, instead of Mario, I’d been telling you how to play Street Fighter?
It doesn’t matter if its Doom. They likely picked Doom because the I/O is so rudimentary that you can install the game on practically anything. The cellular matter has no idea what it’s doing beyond the “Yes/No” signaling.
I know there is no real association between the game and real life. It’s more a question on the mindset of the researchers. I’m sure there are other games that would fit their needs.
you can do the exact same thing with a cockroach. Organoids are not brains.
Tetris.
Pong.
“Scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should”
Micheal on his fictional book about sex changing lizards in an unconventional zoo.
A ‘digital rendition of Hell’… you even Doom bro?
Wasn’t the original Doom a digital representation of Mars and its moons: Phobos and Deimos?
Iirc the study found that the neurons played “slightly better than buttons being pressed at random” or something like that, so it’s hardly pro gamer brain chip.
So we can do this with functioning brain cells but we can’t have abortions? Seems a bit… fucked
Is it ThoughtEmporium or are other people doing it too?
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The Thought Emporium is trying to do it on the cheap using Gatorade (or something similar) as a growth medium and making their own circuit boards.
