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I don’t even know what else to add to this headline. This is so fucked up and tragic scary and infuriating and it will in no way slow the resistance.

  • Iambus@lemmy.world
    1·
    22 hours ago

    The narrative on this has changed over the days since it happened and it’s proven from multiple videos that it was her own fault. Sorry lemmy.

  • Aubmaire@lemmy.world
    717·
    6 days ago

    can anyone explain to me seriously, why aren’t the citizens SHOOTING THEM WITH THEIR GUNS!?

    for reals, what the fuck, the USA’s whole deal with the guns is to stop situations like this happening yet no one is doing anythiing to stop these terrorists

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1892·
    8 days ago

    Heller said she heard ICE agents telling the driver, a woman, to “get out of here.”“She was trying to turn around, and the ICE agent was in front of her car, and he pulled out a gun and put it right in — like, his midriff was on her bumper — and he reached across the hood of the car and shot her in the face like three, four times,” Heller said.

    Heller said it appeared the woman accelerated, and traveled about 100 feet before striking a utility pole and some other vehicles, and could be seen slumped over inside her car.

    Horrifying

    • HellsBelle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1141·
      8 days ago

      ICE is almost forcing citizens to carry guns wherever they go. Civil war could be back in play.

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            8 days ago

            am a passificst, so the regularity and casualness of people telling me I should nut up and kill a politician is very disturbing to me on many levels.

            I don’t think pacifists should be arming up and shooting anyone. I think people who cling to their guns and talk about fighting for freedom need to nut up or shut up (and I’m fine with the latter, just shut up already).

            I dont think further violence has ever really fixed this problem and I dont believe that’s going to magically change now.

            I think this is naive. Violence is an incredibly effective tool at degrading organizational capacity, destroying institutional memory, and quelling public opposition.

            When you’re dealing with ICE agents who can cavalierly execute civilians in public, I would love all three of those things to befall them, because I don’t want an organization with the capacity, the knowledge, and the public platform to execute my neighbors.

            But insurgent violence comes with enormous personal risks, it requires professional training, and it rarely produces tangible results in a single lifetime (especially the lifetime of a militant insurgent). So I’m certainly not going to ask people to stick their necks out.

            I just get tired of people posting TikToks in Camo Cosplay, pretending they’re part of some Last Line of Defense Against Tyranny. You’re bad liars. No serious person takes the 2nd amendment seriously as a political deterrent.

              • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                8 days ago

                What I meant by that was that every time this sort of threat has been resolved by violence, it only sets the stage for future violence, because the true problem lies in the systems we use this violence to uphold.

                The systems are the people. And when you kick out a lynchpin - be it MLK or Charlie Kirk - that system can fail.

                The gun nuts do need to stfu about their hollow ideals though. I’d say we are in complete agreement on that note. If they were to actually ‘walk the walk’ however…I dread what that may usher in tbqh.

                We’ve got people being rammed in their cars and shot gangland style through the windows.

                Delta Force is snatching foreign presidents while the sitting president dismisses the need for next year’s local elections.

                You can only waggle your finger saying “It could get even worse” so many times.

          • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
            3·
            8 days ago

            Tbc, I dont know the most appropriate solution either

            I general strike would be a good first step. It would be very painful and risky given how many folks live paycheck to paycheck and how we have almost no social safety net, but it’s safer and more realistic than everyone trying to go full Rambo or Red Dawn.

            Remember at the start of COVID when we didn’t know how it spread and people were disinfecting their groceries and the feds and the bosses wanted everyone to keep working? It was only when the flight attendants threatened to strike and shut down air travel that they finally relented.

        • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
          4·
          8 days ago

          One side is trying to convince themselves that we’re not in a civil war and just an election away from getting everything back to normal. We’ve been in a cold civil war for at least a decade and it’s getting hot.

      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
        3·
        8 days ago

        While I agree, I don’t see how she would have been better off if carrying. In the end, if we all have guns, more of us are going to die than them. That said… I am thinking that getting a weapon if you can afford it, and afford to store it securely is a good idea.

    • Veedem@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      8 days ago

      They didn’t say “get out of here” they said “get out of the car. Get out of the fucking car”

      Either way, they murdered her and will get away with it.

        • Veedem@lemmy.worldEnglish
          17·
          8 days ago

          I’m certain the driver was panicking and unable to process clearly. The DRIVER is not supposed to be the trained professional in this situation.

          I just like to ensure accuracy because the people who agree with the police will seize any error to show why we’re wrong and the media is biased and blah blah blah.

  • jontree255@lemmy.worldEnglish
    106·
    8 days ago

    Abolishing ICE is the moderate position. Anyone who doesn’t think that organization needs to be completely dismantled at minimum either needs to wake the fuck up or is a fascist.

  • Taldan@lemmy.world
    104·
    8 days ago

    This is fascism.

    People are dying. People will continue to die. I’m saddened and scared by what is happening

  • HellsBelle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    91·
    8 days ago

    While speaking at an unrelated press conference in Brownsville, Texas, Kristi Noem said today’s shooting in Minneapolis was provoked by an “act of domestic terrorism”.

    The homeland security went on to say that the immigration agents on the scene were “attempting to push out their vehicle” due to the snow in the city. “The woman attacked them and those surrounding them and attempted to run them over and ram them with her vehicle. An officer of ours acted quickly and defensively shot to protect himself and the people around him,” Noem said.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/jan/07/donald-trump-venezuela-greenland-oil-childcare-us-politics-live

    This dumb bitch seems to think outright lying - when video shows a completely different story - is the way to go.

    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
      25·
      8 days ago

      Russia’s authoritarian playbook (which the current GOP administration is using) isn’t about lying in an articulate way. It’s about flooding the zone with excuses and lies such that the average person will choose to tune it out rather than to engage.

      • azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        8 days ago

        I’m sure that pointing out the narrative’s glaringly obvious inconsistencies is going to land Russia in very hot water over the shoot down of that civilian airliner over Ukraine in 2014. Any day now. Any day now… Just one more “le epic debunk”…

      • edgesmash@lemmy.world
        19·
        8 days ago

        I mean, everything Some Fucking Idiot says is a lie, pretty much. But we absolutely know this one is a lie because there is no way he watched a video longer than five seconds that didn’t include people shouting his praises.

        • jballs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          19·
          8 days ago

          “Recovering in the hospital”. What a fucking joke. Straight up 1984 telling you not to believe your lying eyes.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        2·
        8 days ago

        Lol way too coherent to be Trump. Which sycophantic traitor wrote (or pasted from an LLM) this bullshit I wonder

    • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
      5·
      8 days ago

      Look at those Twitter comments watching a video of the guy literally throwing himself in front of a moving vehicle, and agreeing she tried to run him over. Nevermind that we have idea why they were even demanding it in the first place.

    • duncan_bayne@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      8 days ago

      This dumb bitch seems to think outright lying - when video shows a completely different story - is the way to go.

      All available evidence suggests she’s correct (about lying, that is … it’s never stopped any of her MAGA superiors).

    • Jerb322@lemmy.world
      741·
      8 days ago

      That mother fucker WALKED over to the victims car, while putting his gun away! “Scared for his life”? “In the hospital recovering”?

      This stupid fucking “president” of ours has lost his fucking mind if he believes the shit coming from his mouth!

      He fucking knows that the stupid fuckers that follow him will eat this shit up and believe anything he says.

      GET THIS FUCKER OUT OF OFFICE!

      FUCK trump! FUCK ice! FUCK nazis!

      fuck…

      Edit: Bot?! Look at my profile, dickhead!

      Make fun of how I talk all you want. It was still murder.

      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        16·
        8 days ago

        A lot of people still think the mcdonalds hot covfefe lawsuit was bullshit. The first to speak wins, even if it’s a lie disproven later.

      • frog_brawler@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        7 days ago

        He doesn’t believe any of this shit, but he thinks his base is dumb enough to believe him; and he’s right about that.

        • kreskin@lemmy.world
          71·
          8 days ago

          You’re lucky you’re on the internet or you’d figure out real fast how many real humans are in a rage about this. And you’re maga so you know nothing about normal people.

        • GuardYaGrill@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          448·
          8 days ago

          Lemmy is chock full of bots, but it’s also full of people who are democrats, liberals and leftists that will stop at nothing to harass people who share conservative ideas.

          Edit: The responses and DM’s after i made this comment prove my point.

    • ChillPenguin@lemmy.world
      23·
      8 days ago

      Get them the fuck out of my city. I’m so fucking sick of them coming here and trying to target minorities. We have immigrant populations. So what, it’s one of our strengths.

      Fuck ICE.

    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      22·
      8 days ago

      “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

    • Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world
      71·
      8 days ago

      Those around him have to be showing him AI videos, every reaction of his to clips of something happening are so detached of what’s going on. This isn’t new but becoming more and more blatant by the day

        • Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world
          1·
          8 days ago

          ? I’m not right wing nor close to it. I’m just responding to the post of the truth social screenshot, from what I’ve seen he’s shared over a dozen different AI videos on that same platform that were fake realities. Stephen Miller to me is the equivalent of Heinrich Himmler, who was the brain of the Nazi Regime in its worst while being the right hand man of Hitler. Im sure it’s easy to make trump belive any video was a nearly 80 tear old man liek all the other seniors that fall for AI on the daily, we have no clue the Intel they fees him that makes him more evil by the day

    • Basic Glitch@sh.itjust.works
      6·
      8 days ago

      They are just trying to make America safe by making it as dangerous as possible for absolutely no fucking reason. Got it. Thank you for your services. I hope we can make Trump and his secret police as safe as they’ve made us.

    • orbitz@lemmy.ca
      2·
      8 days ago

      So US citizens glad to continue working and be productive for this 'leader"? Letting someone who lies like we breath be the mouthpiece (well anus for the amount of shit it spews) of your country.

      I hope for the best of most US citizens but I do hope they take some determination for their country.

      You weren’t always the best but you were better than what you’ve all let your country become. No one is ever best in all ways, but this is the same as Russia, Nazi Germany etc.

      It is the country of US citizens afterall, without action it’s only to be believed that the populace accept it.

      • frog_brawler@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        7 days ago

        You make a good point. I had a talk with my boss on Monday and told him about how my mental health is pretty low right now because of politics. I’m building a foundation for a general strike, so when it happens maybe I won’t lose my job or become homeless. Maybe I will anyway, no idea.

        More people need to do this.

        General strike NOW

        • orbitz@lemmy.ca
          1·
          3 days ago

          Bit late of a reply but you’ll probably lose any ideals your country stood for before you lose your job at that rate. At one point the US stood up to bullies now they let the most thin skinned douche make all the decisions. Congrats.

    • jontree255@lemmy.worldEnglish
      55·
      8 days ago

      God the fucking comments on that video saying she was trying to run him over and “she wasn’t obeying an LEO”.

      1. You can see the shooters feet not in front of the vehicle between the legs of the guy grabbing the door as she starts to turn. He was not about to be run over.

      2. The shooter had his gun drawn approaching the front of the car to be able to shoot her that fast. No one else had their gun out. Why? That fuckhead is trigger happy and ready to kill.

      3. How do we know she wasn’t trying to get out of the way and we can’t hear if she was saying anything like “let me move first”.

      • ThePantser@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        551·
        8 days ago

        Didn’t deserve to be shot in the face. She was unarmed. Also looks really fucking guilty when the shooter covers their face and flees the scene.

        I wonder if they will be “unable to find him” because of the mask. If they can “Identify” Luigi by his eyebrows they should have no trouble prosecuting this human trash.

        • jontree255@lemmy.worldEnglish
          23·
          8 days ago

          It’s not a matter of if they can prosecute it’s a matter of will. DHS is already claiming the victim was a domestic terrorist.

          Every single person that supports the Trump regime after watching that video should be treated with the same contempt as Nazis.

        • fishos@lemmy.worldEnglish
          71·
          7 days ago

          What pissed me off, especially on places like Reddit, is the “no doxxing” rule. YOU CANT DOXX A PUBLIC SERVANT. Part of being a government worker is transparency and accountability. You can’t hide behind anonymity.

          The concept of doxxing goes way back before people tied their real identity to their online one. “Doxxing” or “providing documents” is the act of tying someone’s real life identity to their anonymous one against their will. It is not identifying someone in public or using it to shield them from due criticism for their actions.

          You can’t do that with people who are supposed to be unmasked in the first place, and are legally required to identify themselves as government agents as part of their job. It’s not “doxxing”, it’s basic fucking accountability and transparency.

          When Luigi happened we knew everything about his life. This happens and we don’t know who this asshat is. It’s complete bullshit. Any outlet protecting this piece of shit when they would air the dirty laundry of me and you out for the whole world in a heartbeat needs to be blacklisted.

          Edit: That fuckers name is Jonathan Ross. He murdered Renee Nicole Good. May he know no peace.

      • anon_8675309@lemmy.world
        9·
        8 days ago

        He positioned himself so that the driver was made to look as if they were going to run him over. He could have easily stepped away and the gone after them later if they needed to stop them. This was so unnecessary.

        • jontree255@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          8 days ago

          My opinion is that he was trying to get to the driver’s side and she accelerated but did not see him. He had his gun out to threaten her and opened fire instead of getting out of the way because he’s just the type of thin skinned piece of shit ICE hires.

        • jontree255@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          8 days ago

          Yeah probably why she was trying to GTFO. If they snatched her she could end up in CECOT for all she knows.

    • saphiron@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      8 days ago

      As a fellow MN resident, I’m right there with you. The trump gestapo needs to get the fuck out of our state!

    • CaptPretentious@lemmy.world
      12·
      8 days ago

      Yeah, notice how fast the shooter checked to make sure his mask was up and ran from the scene, didn’t go after the vehicle. He knew what he did and ran.

      What’s that phrase “if you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide” (granted I hate that statement, just the irony of who did the shooting, who did the running, and who they likely support…)

  • notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world
    631·
    8 days ago

    Hunt him down and hang him In front of city hall. Any Nazis in blue try to stop you, add them to the gallows.

    These animals need to be put down, immediately.

      • notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world
        14·
        8 days ago

        I’m sure there’s a mountain of evidence to the contrary, but I feel like torturing him while he sobs for his life before ending it would both be cathartic and a stern message to the rest of these vermin (I can call them vermin because I am describing the views they willingly ascribe to, I’m not basing it on their ethnicity).

        I’d sure feel better.

  • apftwb@lemmy.world
    563·
    8 days ago

    Police surround your car and they are trying to get in and you want to leave?

    American police are allowed to kill you.

    You surround a police car and you make them feel unsafe and they want to leave?

    American police are allowed to kill you.