The time has come to drag these people from their posts.
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“We will be heard peacefully or we will be heard otherwise.”
Not surprised and the MAGA fuck nuts will continue to vote for the bastard.
Will they remember this the next time he’s up for reelection?
Voters have a depressingly short memory.
That’s why democracy is also known as being ruled by the hordes of idiots. It’s amazing when people are well informed on what they are voting on, the problem is that’s never happened in mass and never will. People will vote based on their feelings or just straight up not at all.
He’s not the first but I was thinking about that. I can’t remember the critic but early on in the American experiment someone described it as mob rule.
Similar but I would prefer a representative democracy but where the representatives need to be national experts on what they are deciding. So for instance if it’s medicine then the representatives need to be physicians and medical scientists, and previous heads of hospitals. If it’s dealing with the environment then the representatives need to be environmental scientists, civic engineers, and so on. Aka have the most informed people for that which you are trying to make decisions. Even better, have their policies reviewed by a body of their peers the same way scientific publishing works to get a measure on how good or bad their ideas are. Even better, test their ideas when they’ve been implemented to see if they’re actually working.
I wasn’t making a political point with the video, but your points are interesting.
I agree that, as far as I understand it right now, body-reviewed policies are the democracy we should have.
How about also requiring someone to have experience or a degree in a specific field to vote on specific issues? For example, I’ve been working in tech for a decade, I should be able to vote on technology policies, but not on medical policies.
That’s a fair additive although it can be difficult to define the boundaries. Particularly tech can have a far reaching influence and arguably global influence these days. If the scope of the policy is narrow then I can imagine that being functional, if the scope is potentially global then that may become an issue.
Fuck elections, these types of people require more immediate consequences.
Lots of recall campaigns have successfully been done. They have the benefit of being very public and attention grabbing by nature. That’s if more immediate ejection/dismissal mechanisms don’t exist on a panel/committee.
You’re operating under the assumption that these people haven’t already made the calculation that wherever bribe they received is worth their position.
So recalling them, or voting them out, after they’ve done what they were bribed/blackmailed to do, isn’t the threat, or check on power, that many here believe it to be.
Even if he lose he will be hired by flock, it works this ways sadly.
He didn’t get the cameras, the sheriff did. They want them to pass an ordinance to block their use
Meh. Flock isn’t big enough to hire every rando county commissioner that buys their garbage. This isn’t Lockheed hiring a retiring general or some K street group picking up a friendly senator.
And even if they do hire him, at least he’s not in a position supposedly representing anyone anymore.
This guy is gonna get himself shot by angry residents. I’ve never been to a county meeting before in my life, but I can’t imagine just telling people to fuck off when they come to voice their opposition to issues in their town/city.
This shit has been going on for decades.
Funny thing about American voting: for all the ways that people insist voting doesn’t matter, the one place in America where one vote travels the absolute farthest is in a small town election, and right next to that are county elections, for positions like these.
County sheriffs are often elected, as are county commissioners; who gets elected and who gets appointed depends entirely on applicable state and local law. But even if both of these positions are appointed in Madison County, North Carolina, where this debacle took place, the appointer will almost always be an elected official, like a mayor.
In other words, there is in fact a place where the buck stops in local politics, whether it’s with the mayor or the commissioner or the sheriff or all of the above, and everyone who lives there already knows exactly where it does, especially in a back wood county in the hills like this one.
Add the fact that the meeting was already full of angry people, people who cared enough about the whole thing to make the drive into the county seat and attend, only to be shut up once they arrived.
So while they were silenced at this meeting, it’s not over. None of them want Flock cameras, and nobody wants to take the time and trouble to come to a goddamn podunk county commission meeting only to be told to shut up and sit down.
Come election season, any neighbors with short memories will absolutely be reminded of this, in the kind of local election where often every single vote counts.
I’ll also add, local government is a part time job unless you’re mayor of a large city. These are ordinary people who can be forced to be subjected to the judgement and distaste of their neighbors.
You can put up signs about their bad behavior in office. You can refuse them service in your store. You can’t do shit to the president or your representative in congress, but by fuck can you make a city councilor rue the day they ran for office
Yeah, this guy just guaranteed many full meetings instead of just the one.
Quick, think of some synonyms for flock. I’ll get us started:
Murder.
Gaggle.
Parliament.
let’s just talk about Cock tonight.
You want to know what’s wrong with America? We’re pussies now.
That traitor – and he surely is a fucking treason-weasel – should not have been able to safely walk out of that meeting after telling the community that they didn’t have the god-given right to address their elected officials.
That you are.
The article quotes a Madison County privacy org directly:
“The Sheriff Office claims they are only using this technology for serious crimes, yet published audit logs tell a different story,” a website called Madison for Privacy says. “Madison County has searched the nationwide database over 1,200 times over just a 60 day period. In a county over only 20,000 residents, its hard to understand what could warrant this many searches.”
Holy shit, they’re not wrong. Follow that haveibeenflocked.com link to the Madison County sheriff’s office Flock searches, and the accompanying note:
These are some of the searches performed by Madison County NC SO. We have seen a total of 1,216 searches for this agency, performed by 1 person over 62 days between 3/11/2026 and 5/11/2026 (1 user was active in the most recent six months) The most recent import of records for this agency happened on 5/17/2026.
Madison County is southwest of Asheville on the state line between NC and TN, comprised mostly of unincorporated communities, which is a polite way of saying most residents live in the hills, not in the towns. The entire county has a population of roughly 21,000, and the largest town, Mars Hill, has only 2,000 residents. It doesn’t get much more rural than this on the East Coast.
So given the population and its distribution, and the fact that the sheriff’s office only serves the unincorporated communities because the three towns have their own municipal police, where the fuck does the sheriff’s office get cause or even time for what averages out to 600 Flock searches in a month?
But it gets even stranger. I clicked on a few searches, just to see what I could see, and every single one I clicked on with an unredacted reason* was associated with the same two or three other non-local police departments as the source of the information retrieved, two of which were the exact same ones every time: Forest Park Ohio PD, Tifton Georgia PD, and occasionally the Douglas County Nevada SO. There were a couple others, but always at least one of those three. (If you go to the little i next to the other PDs, it tells you, “This audit record appears in [n] different public record files.”)
This is true whether I clicked on a homicide, a non-DUI alcohol inquiry, a burglary, a car theft, or a sex offense. No matter what reason I chose, no matter how disparate the crime or the date, one if not all of those three law enforcement agencies came up as the source of the Flock information that inquiry pulled from. And this is the same of every search I clicked on, over and over and over again.
(*The sole exceptions to all this were where the crime itself was redacted, and then the associated source of information was Buncombe County, NC, which neighbors Madison County and could potentially be a valid law enforcement reason to search Flock data.)
And when I selected the Repeat Searches checkbox at the top, defined as “Display filter that hides likely duplicate searches (identical searches within 5 minutes). Does not affect server-side counts or downloads,” an even 800 of those 1,216 searches get loaded. So fully two thirds of those searches across two months qualify as duplicates executed within five minutes of each other, to Flock parameters at least. (Or maybe one third, if I’m understanding it wrong; I’m sure someone will be along to correct me shortly.) But that’s still a fuckton of duplicates executed within five minutes of each other.
I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t understand how it all works on the Flock side, but it almost seems like someone in the Madison County, NC sheriff’s office is just sitting on their ass keeping serious tabs on a short list of people living in other places.
it almost seems like someone in the Madison County, NC sheriff’s office is just sitting on their ass keeping serious tabs on a short list of people living in other places.
Probably exes and/or children as Flock abusers keep getting in trouble for.
They need to be reminded that The People ARE the government. It’s ours. All of this belongs to us.
I’m not saying you should… but you could… use the cameras and other open sources … darkweb and whatever else and just to utterly dox each and every one of these people promoting these products. These are not tech savvy people. They are old, decrepit, and well trained in responding only to a hearty handful of totally-not-a-bribe.
If you want these cunts to worry about security and rights… you need to make it personal.
Find an open flock cam? Live stream it with a projector where people see it. Collect some damning evidence and push it right in the face of the people who think it’s secure.
My favorite discussion topic when someone starts with that protect the children bullshit:
You are totally right! But oh wait: with devices likely headed in the direction of being a beacon of ‘my user is underage’ … doesn’t that mean you can effectively, using publicly available information, play pokemon go… except with children?! After all with the leaks and cross references… they could probably just put a filter system in place and let you just find your match. Boy, girl, age, weight, build? I see you’ve made a selection! Care to cross reference with our live footage so you can find pick out that special place for the ideal get together? Need some AI help with finalizing your choice? Let’s dress them up with a bit of help from our app developer GROK! …Promise this is your child and youre just playing dress up to pick out that right gift? Alright! Here you go! Oh its actually your significant other and youre looking for something spicy… well … why not! Heres a few more images with some fun playful outfits for the bedroom… we did you a favor and put them in a couple recommended positions we completely recommend. Go get em king! You’re ready!
Usually by this point they’ve shut the hell up and are now contemplating how to put the genie back bottle. Feel free to use some creative flair. If they dont look like they are about to be ill - you clearly need to go harder.
Damn this seems dark. Just anybody could steal our children. And so easily! We should probably gps tag them at birth. We’ll call it loli-jack. This way we’ll never lose another kid. I’m sure that won’t backfire… Hey and kids grow fast. Maybe some mandatory 3d scans of them during yearly checkups. Obviously so AI can track them if they are being trafficed. No way to disguise them then! Oh and then we can totally sell those totally anonomized scans to help with…
You’ll feel positively disgusting if youre doing it right.
After care is important: the thing I recommend is washing yourself down with iso alcohol. Get a good scrub in. Then get that inner cleanse with a stiff shot and a good cry in the fetal position in the shower. Fuck I hate this timeline.
washing yourself down with iso alcohol. Get a good scrub in. Then get that inner cleanse with a stiff shot.
But maybe grab the ethyl for the inner cleanse.
Good call. Also if you are a religious type I’d steer clear of hallowed ground for a bit. You may start to smolder after speaking such depraved words, true as they may well be, into existence.
This is a great idea, thanks!
Jeezus pleezus. Even county commissioners think they have autocratic, dictatorial powers. It amazes me how little power given can lead immediately to corruption. How do we get a new generation of morally righteous, benevolent, empathic people to run for government in the midst of all this dark nonsense?
Increase the pay for most political positions. Start or donate to collectives or non-profits that fund candidates to run.
There are tons of nice milennial folk who are more than ready to step into these roles but like most people, don’t have the cash to risk running and take care of their families. We need more organizations scouting for people who might be interested and funding their lifestyle while they run. Networks were maybe even if they lose, they know they will at least have a job after in the political infrastructure.
I want to see more family people holding office, not grindmaxxers who are trying to get ahead in life with their political aspirations.
Make autism mandatory to hold public office.
Great, maybe you should start refusing to let these pieces of shit feel safe in public.
No? Not willing to do that? Fine, zero sympathy- you deserve whatever they give you.
Could not be sicker of Americans whining about how victimized they are. This is on you. Yes, I’m victim-blaming, you fucking cowards. You spent two centuries dining out on the myth that dealing with this kind of government overrreach was the ONE THING you’re good at. Go fuck yourselves, I could give two shits whether MAGA keeps steamrolling you at this point.
You actually made me try to think about instances of Americans standing up to government…
I mean other than the revolution against England… Who were a God damn ocean away… I don’t think Americans have ever really stood up to tyranny?
Maybe the civil rights movement? Even that half of them were on the side of racists lol… I don’t know… I feel like if you talk about standing up to government I think more of the French than Americans
Seems like another propaganda thing to pacify people into inaction like saying you don’t need to work out you are ripped to a fatass eating chips on the couch.
Maybe that’s why American politicans love perpetuation the myth
It’s more reasonable than the headline makes it sound. The commissioner pointed out that he’s not in charge of the decision to use Flock cameras and told the group of people who wanted to express their opposition to him anyway to pick one representative who would do so.
I’ve been to meetings where people repeatedly express the same negative opinion of a policy to someone with no control over that policy and I guess that’s what the commissioner wanted to avoid.
No, it’s public forum and you get to say what you want regardless. You, as a citizen, shall not be silenced, no matter the topic.
I’ve also been to a county meeting like that. The topic at hand was expanding a greenway, but one Karen took up most of the meeting complaining about (what I have to assume is her imagination) people smuggling hookers into the city by canoe.
Meh. Not a single thing should get done there until those cameras are gone. He certainly knows who is in charge of those cameras so he can listen again for the 121th time and so he can relay the message for 121th time. I mean what else can you do if the camera dipshit isn’t attending these meetings?
But he works for the people. It’s not his call to tell the people what they want to talk about. It’s his fucking job to sit there and listen, AND THEN SEE WHAT ELSE HE CAN DO TO HELP.
Because in this moment, the listening IS the help. People need to be heard and it’s his job to listen.
