Senior Justice Department officials are weighing proposals to limit transgender people’s right to possess firearms, according to two officials familiar with the internal discussions.
  • floofloof@lemmy.ca
    741·
    3 months ago

    In case anyone’s in any doubt about whether there’s any factual basis for this:

    Mass shooters are not disproportionately transgender, contrary to claims

    This CNN article states it well:

    Such a move would represent a dramatic escalation of the Trump administration’s fight against the rights of transgender Americans.

    That’s it. This is just the fascists finding another way to victimize trans people, because they enjoy doing that and it keeps the morons’ attention diverted from real problems.

    And this bit is also good in the article (warning: disgusting quotes from Trump admin people):

    The goal of the potential ban, according to the Justice official, is “to ensure that mentally ill individuals suffering from gender dysphoria are unable to obtain firearms while they are unstable and unwell.”

    Because gender dysphoria is included in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, also called the DSM, it is diagnosed as a mental disorder. (The DSM is the handbook used by health care professionals as the authoritative guide in diagnosing mental disorders.)

    But the gender incongruence – having a gender identity that’s not the one assigned at birth – isn’t what makes gender dysphoria a mental disorder. Having clinically significant dysphoria around the incongruence is what makes it a disorder.

    That’s surprisingly nuanced and well informed for an article on a mainstream news site.

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
    48·
    3 months ago

    It makes sense if you don’t think about it. Which apparently the DOJ never did.
    It’s all about creating enemies the ignorant bigots can stand together against.
    USA is a disgusting society.

    • andros_rex@lemmy.worldOP
      35·
      3 months ago

      It’s shaping up to declare us all mentally incompetent so that they can institutionalize us. They won’t stop here.

      • Buffalox@lemmy.world
        12·
        3 months ago

        What a nightmare, and AFAIK no country will accept trans people from USA as refugees (yet).
        I hope you have options.

        • not_that_guy05@lemmy.world
          111·
          3 months ago

          I think Canada does from what they reported of asylum sellers from the US and mostly were trans.

          I hope if shit pops off they can send us care packages from the north.

          • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
            12·
            3 months ago

            Last I checked (last week? Does time mean anything anymore?) canada doesn’t want poor trans refugees more than any other country. A few people have gotten in, but the vast majority of applicants are being denied asylum.

          • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world
            6·
            3 months ago

            Source for that claim? I’m pretty sure Canada is unfortunately still very backwards on granting asylum to people who need it (like most countries in the world are), but I’d love to be wrong about that.

    • tidderuuf@lemmy.world
      10·
      3 months ago

      There was a convicted criminal now representative in my state that has a YouTube video out of her firing an assault weapon. She was the lead sponsor of the bill that banned assault weapons in our state. On top of that because of her past convictions it is illegal for her to be in possession of a firearm.

      It only makes sense if you don’t look at the shit show behind the curtains.

  • Oxysis/Oxy@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    202·
    3 months ago

    I hate my life and I hate this world so much, yes this shithole of a country is one of the worst but others are rapidly sliding to this too. Why couldn’t I have just been born a women and never had to deal with all of this

  • Furbag@lemmy.world
    18·
    3 months ago

    A republican shoots up a school and nobody sees any issue with Republican ideology, but the second a trans person does we’ve gotta take away the guns, right?

    Lefties and trans folk, arm up. If you haven’t bought your piece yet, start the application process. Once you have it, it becomes almost impossible for them to take it away by force.

    • GreenBottles@lemmy.world
      6·
      3 months ago

      I think you mean the only way they’ll take it is by force, and they will if they choose to do so. You aren’t going to stop a SWAT team (or worse.)

  • -RJ-@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    3 months ago

    So if the next mass shooting is done by a non-trans person, does that mean non-trans people will be restricted from owning a gun?

    • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      3 months ago

      Judging from right-wing media, all mass shooters secretly become trans just before pulling the trigger.

      • -RJ-@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        So you’re saying that guns make people trans? Surely the right want to stop that too?

    • InputZero@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 months ago

      Ah see you’re making a common mistake when reading the law. Republican’s shall not be infringed, Democrats shall be infringed. It’s a common mistake to assume the Republicans will respect others rights, they don’t. They want all the rights for themselves and laws to apply to everyone else.

    • Rachel@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      9·
      3 months ago

      I don’t think Trump is popular for this. The NRA has already come out publicly they are against this. Rednecks hate trans people but they hate anyone who threatens to take guns away from citizens more it looks like.

  • Professorozone@lemmy.world
    13·
    3 months ago

    How would this stop them? Couldn’t they just use the same gun show/online loopholes (the many way ways to acquire a gun in America)everyone else does?

    EDIT: changed the phrasing to more accurately reflect the reality to satisfy people’s dependence on nitpicking details at the cost of understanding the actual point.

    • Event_Horizon@lemmy.world
      15·
      3 months ago

      Probably. I think this is more about providing an excuse for jailing any trans who choose to own a firearm, rather than stopping them

  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
    11·
    3 months ago

    It’s amazing how we’re all told growing up there’s no black and white good and evil. The world doesn’t really have vampires and villains, just people who disagree on what’s right. I’m surprised he hasn’t painted the White House black yet.

    (Yes, I know, but gold doesn’t fit the metaphor)

  • 鳳凰院 凶真 (Hououin Kyouma)@sh.itjust.works
    111·
    3 months ago

    Dems be like: “I allow it”

    Remember: “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.” -Karl Marx

    Armed Minorities are harder to oppress.

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      I mean, it’s not like they’re gonna try to stop him. These are just trans people’s rights and democrats only talk about protecting trans rights until they get pushback from bigots.

      Hell, they’ll probably help him.

  • TipRing@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    3 months ago

    Trans people are statistically underrepresented among mass shooters. If we are targeting high risk demographics we should start with white men.

  • Jimbabwe@lemmy.world
    8·
    3 months ago

    Next up, people with Trump Derangement Syndrome (RFK can diagnose you as you walk around in the airport)!