• Ginny [they/she]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    ITT: exactly what the tweet was about. (Edit: It was a tumblr post.)

    Y’all just saw “AI” and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.

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    It’s wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.

    Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.

    AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it’s associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven’t seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren’t hurting anyone.

    To use a bit of hyperbole, it’s kinda like if you said:

    Some of y’all see “white power” and freak out without processing anything that’s being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.

    Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.

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      Yes, it’s totally okay starve millions of homes of water and jack up their utility bills to be able to summarize articles and write emails. (/s)

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        I can’t tell if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me
        Because you wrote your reply like a criticism, but the content seem to agree with what I wrote

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          It was definitely in agreement. There are way better uses for our resources, people, and talent than on things like AI. That’s not to say that no one should have a tech job in AI, but the overwhelming push to expand and adopt it is insane.

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      Ah, that false quote is beautiful. It’s like watching an effortless right hook delivered squarely onto the jaw of whoever Rocky Balboa is fighting.

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      I don’t think OP thinks they are actually equivalent though, it’s just a satirical comparison.

      Another comparison could be vegans. Environmental impact of meat consumption is huge and it also has the more obvious harm and ethical issues.

      Vegans get a lot of shit anyway, but imagine if every comment or post about meat, regardless of where it was or in what context got a barrage of abrasive comments from vegans?

      You will never convince someone of your cause if you’re a dick to them. It’s a huge internet trait to just go full meltdown at everything rather than talk with some you don’t agree with to aim for a better outcome.

      https://piefed.social/post/1067555

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        I get that, and the vegan comparison is good. But I get why vegans act like that, even if I don’t share their opinion.
        In both of these cases you’re arguably pushing for a better world.

        But the difference is that veganism is changing the status quo and isn’t popular, while opposing AI is maintaining the status quo and is popular.

        You’re never going to convince a true believer even if you’re kind to them, so there is no point being kind. A mean message to an AI supporter isn’t actually to the AI supporter, it’s to their audience, establishing a zeitgeist.

        AI is bad, and if we let up the vocal opposition, that’ll make its way into more popular forums and we’ll lose the zeitgeist, and policymakers will notice it, and then we’ll start losing shit like workers rights.

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      […] Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody […]

      This feels like a hasty generalization. For example, if one is experiencing gender dysphoria, we could assume that misgendering them with their undesired pronouns would cause them psychological distress [1] — ie harm.

      References
      1. Type: Article. Title: “Gender dysphoria”. Publisher: “Wikipedia”. Published: 2025-08-05T16:25Z. Accessed: 2025-08-06T04:23Z. URI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria.
        • Type: Text. Location: ¶1.

          Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person experiences due to inconsistency between their gender identity—their personal sense of their own gender—and their sex assigned at birth.

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          How so? It wasn’t my intent to misrepresent your words. That being said, I do apologize if I’ve accidentally (and potentially carelessly) misinterpreted what you said. I’ll gladly fix my comment if you help me understand where my interpretation went wrong 😊

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            The other reply has it right, but I wanted to reply to confirm.

            “Pronouns” in this context almost always means “preferred pronouns” especially wrt people who have preferred pronouns that differ from those assigned at birth.

            It’s a bit hard to believe that someone would be aware of the study you mentioned, but not the common usage of the terms.

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              The other reply has it right, but I wanted to reply to confirm.

              “Pronouns” in this context almost always means “preferred pronouns” especially wrt people who have preferred pronouns that differ from those assigned at birth. […]

              I still don’t really follow. Are you arguing that the usage of one’s preferred pronouns doesn’t harm the user? Or are you arguing that the misuse of one’s pronouns causes them no harm?

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                I struggle to believe that someone who writes English as well as you, and is familiar with the subject can misread what I’ve written so grossly, except by intention.

                using someone’s preferred pronouns doesn’t harm anyone.

                This post is about being made to use someone’s preferred pronouns. The context of this whole discussion is the usage of preferred pronouns. The pronouns being discussed are preferred pronouns. The harm being discussed is harm (or lack thereof) in using them.

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    It has been my experience that things go the other way around. Usually people read the text (or programming script), see that it’s nonsense and ask, “Is this fucking AI? Cause I really hope no one is actually this stupid.”

    And then they get annoyed that someone is cooking the planet using AI instead of their brain.

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    If I’m seeing the word “AI” outside of academic research or shitposting, it’s almost certainly coming from a Techbro or techbro simp.

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    i saw someone on masto mad about the new background removal thing added to kdenlive

    i despise llms and image models for quite a number of reasons but just aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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    I have no idea what point you’re trying to get across but I just got back from shopping for a laptop for my college kid and pretty much all of them had a slop button

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        I might consider that for myself, next time I need one, but the kid is not a techie. He needs something that just works, with anything he may encounter , for at least 4 years. Most damning of all he probably needs to be able to game, and is not interested in having to figure out extra steps

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    I am definetly guilty even tho i should start judging after knowing if its useful ai or gen ai

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    Outside of the privacy and environmental issues at this point AI isn’t a fleshed out product yet it’s being pushed into apps that don’t need it. I think AI development needs to continue, and the public needs to use it and apply it in was it likely wasn’t intended for but it needs to be opt in.

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      Yes. Because one is posted as a joke, and one is an un-ironic “observation.” I’ll let you figure out which is which. Maybe go ask an AI if you have trouble figuring that one out.

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    Until we fundamentally invent a new algorithmic approach to ML then there will be no more progress made in the abilities of AI.

    So it’s here and it’s finished for a long time. Now is when you make a judgment on the validity of a new tech.

    And this tech has been all marketing and no substance besides the ML applications we have been using them for since the 90s.