• BigDiction@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    The downside of creating political shitposts in this community is feeling obligated to read the parapgraphs on paragraphs of seemingly serious political theory that no one asked for.

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    Millions killed in purges and policy created in cults of personality.

    Yeah, need to make a whole identity sh*tting on imperfect democracies while touting systems that have always devolved into dictatorships.

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      Or you’re just not that familiar with Capitalist and Communist history.

      Killed by the British East India company by the famines in India and Bengal: 10 - 15 million (the company exported ALL the grain, even the grain farmers were paid with and living off. Gotta get those peofits!).

      Killed by the Libertarian Congo Free State under King Leopald: 10 - 15 million.

      Killed in the USSR Gulag system? 1.5 - 2.5 million.

      Most people survived the Gulag system (18 million went in, the majority walked out alive).

      Outside of that Communism had a lot of unwanted famines largely contributed to by one con man scientist:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_Lysenko#Consequences_of_Lysenko’s_views

      Capitalism has in all likelihood killed waaay more people than Communism (just on the numbers)… And if you know the history, this becomes more and more obvious. This doesn’t even cover the many wars by Capitalist nations.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    Can’t tell you how many times these twats have called me a genocider.

    It used to be a pretty serious word, but these losers are working overtime stripping it of all its meaning by using it on everyone that disagrees with them.

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      I just respond I’m anti genocide, including, Russia’s kidnapping and trafficking Ukrainian children and China’s genocide of the Uyghars. It shuts them up or they immediately start defending them and then I call them genocides.

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      I’ve been called a zionist genocider for pointing out mass-murder is evil. People are fucking NUTS!

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          The usual pattern: one, then two, then ten to defend the honor of Comrad Slaughterhouse and bury us all in bad-faith brigades.

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        No, enlightened centrists have representation.

        I’m a socialist in the United States and AOC is gonna vote for Hakeem Fucking Jeffries for Speaker, so who is really on my side at this moment?

        But in the context of the US vs China, it seems like people are always explicitly making me pick a side. Almost all the China-bashing is motivated by wanting to keep the US hegemonic, and every time I say, “Hey, why are we saying China shouldn’t rule the world but never challenging why we allow the United States to rule the world?” I get called a tankie.

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          It really does feel like AOC is a career politician with too deep ties with super pacs that fund most of the “moderates” in democratic party.

          Please vote her out as well.

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            We have a real problem in that it’s relatively easy for establishment candidates to give off progressive signals and for the mainstream media to never challenge them, so people will happily pose as progressives and then go right back to the establishment.

            Look to Susan Collins for a mirrored example of that. It’s very effective.

            That said, I think we’re going to have a lot of angry primary voters in 2028 if things keep going how they’re going.

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              No True Progressive

              If someone is a Progressive 99% of the time and fucks up 1% of the time, tHeYrE eStAbLiShMeNt NeOlIbS!!!

              With this much purity testing, it’s no wonder the left has no ground to stand on in the US - the rug keeps getting pulled by people further left of whatever platform they’re on.

              Meanwhile the conservatives and fascists are patting each other on the back for putting aside their differences.

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                Getting pissed off at voting for a house speaker with a history of opposing progressive causes after a once-in-century change election isn’t purist pique.

                Dems have a chance to redefine the party into something people want to vote for. If we can’t do it, we’re giving racist Christofascism another shot at a permanent majority. We have a lot of work to do at every level and we can’t do it with a corpodem at the top of the hiearchy.

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                  Getting pissed off at voting for a house speaker with a history of opposing progressive causes after a once-in-century change election isn’t purist pique.

                  It is when you try to argue that AOC is No True Progressive.

                  Dems have a chance to redefine the party into something people want to vote for. If we can’t do it, we’re giving racist Christofascism another shot at a permanent majority. We have a lot of work to do at every level and we can’t do it with a corpodem at the top of the hiearchy.

                  Cool soapbox, but I never said anything different; you’re acting like I disagree with you here.

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    Progressives, we have to get rid of billionaires and the wealth gap. Eat the rich.

    Communists, we could put them through struggle sessions and beat them in the streets?

    Neoliberals, nah, let’s see what billionaires want, let them into government.

    Tank man, I have had a hell of a day and just want to get my shopping home, and now there’s a tank here. I’m gonna fuck with a millitary in the 80s.

    The US: Our millitary would never Kent state, or Waco, or Ruby Ridge, or Ludlow Massacre, or Battle of Blair Mountain, or extraordinary rendition anyone! This is proof that communism is bad.

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    The difference between the two is getting narrower and narrower. Dystopian surveillance and murderous authorities? Check. Imperialist foreign policy built on multiple genocides? Check. Pogroms and oppression of minorities? Not only check, but the US is arguably worse than China or the USSR. Though I admit that may be due to the US having an extra century to do dirt. And don’t forget America’s the world leader in Gulags.

    The idea that America is benevolent is stupid. The idea that she’s benevolent by comparison is running mighty thin.

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      The difference between the two is getting narrower and narrower.

      “I literally cannot tell the difference between Louis XVI and Robespierre” is a thing you can say from a very great historical distance.

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      Uhh, yeah, we don’t disagree that America often sucks. Pointing that out in response to criticism pointed at other authoritarian regimes doesn’t make them good. For example, talking about gulags is guaranteed to trigger someone to bring up America’s incarceration rate. Does that magically make gulags good? No, it’s whataboutism and deflection.

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        talking about gulags is guaranteed to trigger someone to bring up America’s incarceration rate.

        I didn’t mean to imply the connection between America’s gulags and the Soviets. I meant to state it explicitly. And I also want to point out the meme itself is a whataboutism.