• Synapse@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Completely wrong target for GrapheneOS. The GrapheneOS demographics, which I belong to, isn’t interested in high-end phones. They want a no nonsense simple phone with lots of storage and security first design.

    • fancy AMOLED screen: don’t care
    • 5 fancy cameras: don’t care
    • super powerful CPU and GPU: don’t care
    • storage space: yes please, I have photos and music to store locally!

    This will be harmful to GrapheneOS project. It will go like this: no one buys the phone because it’s too damn expensive and full of features the privacy nerds like me don’t care about. Even fewer buy the phone with GrapheneOS pre-installed and it’s a total flop. Motorola stops the partnership saying “we did it and no one wanted it”. No other OEM wants to partner with GrapheneOS after that.

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    What the fuck is the point? Like really what the fuck??? Just make an affordable phone is it really that fucking hard??? Sorry for cruising so much but what the actual fuck??? LiKe is it actually hard to conceptualize common sense now a-days??? Like girl we’re 27 and broke and your telling us not only of we want out of the hellscape of Apple vs Android bullshit we either gotta make out own phone or pay 2k€ for a fucking phone?! FOR A PHONE!!! We’ve only bought 1 new phone EVER only purchased pre-used phones and they’ve all been old and even this “new” phone was old when we got it 😭 we’ve been stuck on this shitty ios phone stuff too fucking long and been waiting for like any good android phone and was looking at this like holy shit finally AND NOW IT’S 2 FUCN K EUROS!!!

    Another 5 years on the iPhone 12 mini ig

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      Honestly, I think it’s partly that tech workers are out of touch with reality in terms of pay/income. I’ve heard senior software devs be absolutely floored / in utter disbelief when they’ve heard the average salary in my country – ppl literally laughed, thinking it a joke, because they couldn’t believe anyone could live on so little. They were making double the average right out of university. They have no frame of reference for people who struggle to pay bills, nor do they pay much thought to blowing a few thousand on a gadget.

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        No, don’t think they’re banned here in EU. But like don’t think that they’re not all that much cheaper yeah?

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    Personally, I already balked at the size of the screen (~6.8"). The ridiculous price is just the final nail in the coffin.

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      Mini tablets were 7 inches.

      It’s ridiculous; how am I meant to fit something half the size of my dick in my pocket?

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        Just let it hang and sway, let it out bro. This is 🦅 America 🇺🇸, bitches! gunfire, big macs showering from the sky, and jets flying over in formation

        (and if you don’t live here then we can bring you some freedom too, and you too can let your freak flag fly)

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          and if you don’t live here then we can bring you some freedom too

          No thanks. I live in a country freer than the US, you guys keep all that to yourselves.

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    I’d like to have one, but there’s no fucking way a goddamned PHONE is worth $2000

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        Yep, been doing used pixels for a while now. They’re all the same anyway. I don’t care about the camera.

        My kids are dopes and constantly break screens so I’m not about to buy anything nice. We all have the same model and a spare. Broken, eBay screen, bring in the spare, fix the broken one, is now the spare.

        You’ll get a new phone when it doesn’t get updates anymore, then you’ll just get the next one up.

        Spending more than $300 on a phone is nuts to me. They’re all the same candy bar anyway.

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    What is the point of a 1900€ phone? What is the target audience? How is it better than a 500€ phone?

    Questions more towards Motorola than Graphene, but I doubt the Graphene foundation went into the partnership without knowing what kinds of specific phones would be covered.

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    There’s no reason for a phone to be that expensive. Laptops are cheaper and they do more wtaf

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    How brainrotted do you have to be to spend that much on a phone with a sealed in 2-year battery?

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      I have a pixel 10 with 16gb RAM. Nothing has made changing realistic and likely wont for awhile. I hate AI and only wantgOS and a decent camera.

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    For phones like these, which are primarily going to be used by nerds, tech enthusiasts and tinkerers, this is poor launch strategy from Motorola.

    Most of the audience for something like this will be turned off by this and all the hype they generated will fizzle out a bit.

    They should have started with a mid range launch first, get enthusiasts to rave about it and then upsell these extravagant features to less involved consumers.

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      Ehh.

      Best way to get over the idea of being a cheap brand is sell something for a high price that people actually buy, and on top of that hopefully rave about it.

      I use to have used a lot of Motorola phones in my life with the last being a Moto G. Amazing phones. Features like chop flashlight and double tap to turn of screen were game changers. The speed and graphics were on par with what I needed. Great phones.

      But do I as a consumer see Motorola as a “flagship” phone. If you gave me unlimited money to buy a phone would I go out and have gotten the top of the line Motorola over my S25+? It could possibly be comparable to the S25 Ultra. I don’t even know why I would need an S25 Ultra. But I don’t know what the top of the line Motorola phone is or was at that time.

      This could change that. And that is what they need because they do make great phones in my experience.

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        I am not denying that having a flagship is good for Motorola or that something they can’t pull off.

        It’s just that the GrapheneOS phone seemed like it was for the tinkering XDA forums custom ROM users. And not many of them drop so much money on a phone. 1500+ phones are for people who want their phone to be a status symbol.

        Motorola isn’t a status symbol yet, like it was during Razr days. I doubt people who can actually afford this care about GrapheneOS or want to worry about a hundred things that come with non standard OS.

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    Signature is their pro max. Just wait for a new “edge” with GrapheneOS support.

    Not justifying the price, its stupid expensive. But please don’t act like this will be the only Motorola with GrapheneOS support.

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    Surely at that price point it is designed to last 8-10 years.

    What’s that, it has a glued-in 2 year lithium battery?

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    I was really hoping to pay Motorola somewhere around $800-$1200 for a legit option for GrapheneOS that doesn’t involve Google’s hardware.

    But at $1600, I don’t think I can justify that.