He didn’t make a joke he just referred to Mao as some Chinese dictator when talking about the meme.
“How do you feel about democracy in China?”
“GREAT!” nervously checks around
“I have to say, I really do approve of all of glorious leader’s ideas!”
/doubt
Its not “some” of the broadcasters, it ALL the broadcasters. china is in full censorship mode on this guy.
Their censorship isn’t working anymore. The walls are breaking down, people are using VPNs, and Chinese people are talking to us on western social media sites. They can still believe it’s all western propaganda lies, but they can’t hide from the truth anymore.
I think the response has actually been more often something like “wow, Americans and Europeans really have it that bad?”
No, no, you don’t understand. China is most free, best country. Please consult happy chart.
See? Bar is higher.
Just like elections and sociology in Russia! They are such a good couple!
How are they so thin-skinned? You’d think tankies would have thick, armoured skin, like a… Well, like a … rhinoceros 🦏
How are they so thin-skinned?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation#Under_Xi_Jinping
Once they obtained enough clout, there is now this widespread belief among Mainlanders they have emerged from what they saw as a century of humiliation, now they see themselves above reproach, even exceptionalistic, and so will object to any sort of what they perceive as debasement.
How is that even insulting?
He called Mao a dictator. Apparently stating indisputable facts is unacceptable.
Mao has called himself a dictator which is the real irony here…
The encapsulation of Mao:
“If the worst came to the worst and half of mankind died [in nuclear war], the other half would remain while imperialism would be razed to the ground and the whole world would become socialist.”
Zapp Brannigan revolutionary with no plans beyond bravado. There was/is no universe where a nuclear holocaust ends in sunshine and roses instead of the (functionally) permanent crippling of the human race. That lack of critical thought is still infecting leftist conversation today: vastly underestimating the cost and implications of actions and relying on blind appeals to moral determinism.
wasn’t planning to see Zapp Brannigan in this topic, it was a welcome surprise (and an apt analogy).
If it can be destroyed by the truth, it should be destroyed by the truth
This message brought to you by Tiananmen Square
Tank you
In case anyone thought China was a serious country, this is a good reminder.
what metric for seriousness would you choose instead?
because providing healthcare, clean electric power and high speed rail would be pretty fucking nice if we could get some here.
meanwhile we have trump, using ice at the polls… seriously democratic shit there.
not a fan of china, but I do wish we had their solar and rail outputs…
Free press. In the US, the press is bought, in China it is controlled.
lol… have you seen the press here bending the knee over and over to trump? fuck the only outfit I’ve seen stand up to him is the bbc…
free press chortle
Free press. In the US, the press is bought,
also, it’s not free if it’s bought.
That is what I meant. The US and China stand on opposite ends on the spectrum of free press. In China, the press isn’t free and in the US, there are no protections keeping the press from being taken over by moneyed interests.
Mbappe is just one of the latest personalities who have to literally apologize to Mainland China, as the chunk of their income is much derived from whatever products and services they’re selling (or pandering) to the Mainlanders.
At this stage and no thanks to the United States whose capitalists offloaded manufacturing and even technological capability to the Middle Kingdom because cheaper labor and less oversight – and now Trump’s lunatic self-destructing regime changing much of the developing world beginning with killing USAID – China is so much of a greater hegemonic capitalist power now that it has developed its own brand of “cancel culture” where some millions of Mainland Chinese who are well-to-do consumers but also nationalistic, can afford to vote with their wallets and thus humiliate anyone who dares to insult their country.
This is the Mainland China of Xi Jinping that can say no.
Why do they even like Mao so much? Dude was only good for helping them get the country. Literally nothing else.
Why do they even like Mao so much?
Same reason Americans love George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Adam Smith.
He’s a Founding Father of the modern nation, a spiritual progenitor of their economic philosophy, and a guy with tons of media to play up as nostalgia bait for the Chinese equivalent MAGA nationalists.
You’ll see Chinese nationalists leap to his defense the same way you see American nationalists get Big Mad when you talk about Jefferson raping his father-in-law’s illegitimate slave daughter. Or reminding them why the White House is that color and under which President it happened.
I’ve never understood the stereotype that Americans idolize a bunch of old white guys from the 1700s.
Most people I know don’t give a single shit about them, and the ones that do are very vocal about their dislike of them.
It’s pretty widely accepted that they were all garbage human beings by today’s standards.
If you mean Republicans idolizing them but only in specific circumstances that support bigoted worldviews, then sure.
Yeah, doesn’t look like you guys are beating the stereotype of supporting garbage people
Okay, makes sense.
He’s meant to be a legendary figure.
Adam Smith was an economist, he lived earlier than Marx, another highly regarded economist, did. Adam Smith wasn’t a founding father of the 🇺🇲.
Adam Smith’s “Wealth of Nations” was a direct rebuttal to the British merchantilist policies of the 1770s. It was released the year the Revolutionary War began and heavily influenced both the independent movements propaganda and the subsequent fiscal policies of the new governments.
Same reason Americans love George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Adam Smith.
The average Americans have never heard of Adam Smith.
And the ones that have studied him are aware that he was a critic of capitalism, not a proponent of it.
The average Americans have never heard of Adam Smith.
Going to have to see your homework on that one
Imagine opposing fascism while supporting the one guy that was worse than hitler.
This isn’t what happened as far as I can tell. He just lost ads and sponsorships after calling Mao a dictator online. Is that what “some Chinese broadcasters” is supposed to mean?
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“Hmm, how can I make this about America being bad? 🤔”
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Until the wrong people start rioting?
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That’s an exercise left to the reader
“The election was stolen/rigged….”
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The ones who did and still failed.
Like with Obama’s joke about Trump this week saying that the White House renovations made the building look like “Saddam Hussein opened a Cheesecake Factory”.
The GOP flipped out about the cheesecake factory part, but not about the comparison to Saddam.
For those not in the know, Trump’s style of decorating has a name that existed long before 2016, it’s called “dictator chic” and it is the same decorating style Saddam, Qaddafi, other dictators and drug lords embrace.
The GOP flipped out about the cheesecake factory part, but not about the comparison to Saddam.
A strategic decision to twist this into insulting middle class white people, rather than comparing Trump to a historic National Enemy.
It flopped, in large part because Republicans have fully forgotten how to meme. But it’s the standard conservative racism jujitsu.
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As an American who also insults America this thread doesn’t make me mad at anything more than how people stupidly hold another ape up as a paragon and then argue whether they were shitty or not.
What are you talking about? They don’t make it a criminal offense to broadcast anyone insulting America. In fact they have people whose job is to go on TV and make jokes about how stupid America is. They have entire networks dedicated to talking about how much they hate the current administration. Insulting America is like an American national pasttime.
Compare that to China where every news network messaging is enforced by the state, and saying anything else is illegal.
