When did Apple ever do more and cost less, outside of the early 80s? The “Apple tax” has been around for 40 years. Regardless of whether it did more or less, and it’s done lots of both over the years, Apple stuff has cost more for almost the entirety of their existence and you don’t even need to specify what type of device.
Correct, this won’t be. Even 10 years ago when I was on Reddit, people tended to side with Android and androids in 2016 actually did kinda suck. 85-92% of all Lemmy users are that, guys like me who used Reddit when it was good and left when they asked for a selfie to “confirm my age” on my 15 year old Reddit account.
These days, now on the fediverse? Even Apple users hate Apple, Android fans are packing their bags and moving onto either GrapheneOS or SailfishOS, and no one is really a ‘fanboy’ of anything anymore. We hate even the shit we like.
Except me. I’m still a fan of eating ass.
I got constantly down-voted in that cesspool for stating things like that. I like my librem for work, it’s really just a mini laptop and still use an iphone for calls and watching anime.
And you know it’s things like getting constant reminders that your cloud is full, don’t worry I know it’s not with that one bug bringing pictures of my exes back. It’s 900 days since you backed up your files! It’s been years and you can’t get the message that I won’t be paying you money for your cloud crap? Insanity. Or let’s update to having more shit you don’t need! And kill your battery and slow your phone down. Didn’t update? Well we still did a soft update.
It was cool to get a apple 4s, now it’s like what year is it? meh I don’t care. And basically having a tablet sucks. I held my 12 mini recently and I was like wow; broke my finger so holding the tablet phones sucks. And I don’t need 50 MB photos.
The settings menu is a myriad like andriod now, I don’t need a labyrinth of settings.
Now that I think about it Tim Apple is a fan of eating ass, so we get to experience it as well! /s
My government issued transgender girlfriend got a job working at the post office and callls me cringe for the fact I served in the US Army. She has a Motorola Signature 27.
Lol I don’t know what to think on that. Looking at the phone, got enough cameras? Is there one that goes into your pants?
But I do think people get too much flack for enlisting; I know a lot of people that they had a choice of enlist or go to prison or become homeless.
Homeless or prison then. Enlisting because you’re desperate and destitute only feeds the cycle of suffering.
It’s the same picture. I’ll take being a plumber in Misawa.
Except me. I’m still a fan of eating ass.
Is this how you let us know you still daily drive a Windows Phone?
Whoa, don’t cross kink shame sadists with booty sweat.
Lol, ROFL even.
That would be a masochist, not a sadist. Only sadistic if they could force the rest of us to use Windows Phone OS. As is, they are just punishing themselves, hence a masochist.
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You sir are my hero , someone had to say it
I’m no spring chicken anymore and I don’t remember Apple ever costing less.
And their software has always been anti-intuitive.
I can say that around 2010, the value proposition was there. Longer lifespan, held their value for resale, better built in software. iLife and iWork were a crazy value compared to what you got from Office and whatnot. New versions of the OS were way cheaper. Wasn’t snow leopard like $60?
Macs were a premium then, so were iPhones.
The last Apple I purchased was the Apple IIc. Has much changed since then? Do we still need to flip the floppy disk or can they do that with a robot now?
It never costed less
it actually did in the early days, when the options were buying a mainframe or buying an Apple PC
Okay then it’s not “Apple Now”. It’s “Apple since 1990 or whatever”
Files are obviously a nefarious invention by those evil Linux communists!
Big Linux forcing everyone into their ecosystem by being functional.
When did Apple generally cost less?
It’s only been sporadically that Apple released really good cheap hardware. The second or third geberation MacBook Air for example was a powerhouse for casual office work. Early M series as well had some good price points. But overall they’ve always charged a lot of RAM and peripherals.
iPhone was always above market, ipad is premium priced (but feels like the only major tablet that gained traction).
The Apple II line, the Macintosh line, and the Macintosh II line generally cost less than an equivalent PC (specifically an IBM PC 5150, XT, or AT), and most PC clones.
Apple generally cost less from 1977 to 1993.
Hence why Apple had a huge passionate DIY fandom who even made components and peripherals for those lineages, anywhere from custom memory and processor upgrades, to tape drives that can read almost any format, to predecessors of the “smart home”/IoT systems such as remotely controlling the baby rocker. The last I knew of was an internal floppy drive mod for the iMac.
Now with planned obsolescence in mind, the current Apple regime is trying to disallow anyone from ever prolonging the lifespan of its products.
The first generation of Arm Mac’s were pretty cost effective.
Yeah, it’s not a hard rule, it’s just not consistent and depends on your upgrades.
If you bought the mid-late 2010s models for example you basically needed ram upgrades, which cost an arm and a leg. Early M1 the swap was fast so RAM was acceptable at defaults, but also if you bought an M1 or M2 Max you really lucked out with LLMs and prices overall. M3 mini at 64gb I think was unbeatable value.
Current gen everything is fucked, but they’re pushing Mac Studio for LLM clusters and so no, they’re not cheaper anymore. They’re cheaper than a $100K GPU.
It never really cost less, but it was there slogan in the 90s.
“Cost less, do more. It’s that simple”.
Makes sense. I bought my first Mac in the mid 2000s (the early Intel models), and back then they were more expensive and did less.
I installed VMware Fusion and Boot Camp and then it did just as much or more than PCs. But the big thing was the total amortized cost was good and printer drivers weren’t pure evil.
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When did Apple ever cost less (than anything)? 2nd part is spot on.
That particular ad copy was used for the roll out of the Macintosh which debuted in 1993
Apple stuff stopped costing less around 1996.
Doing my part: downvoted, for being irrelevant for 20-30 years. Apple hasn’t done much of anything to keep prices down for decades with some minor exceptions that pale in comparison to shit like a $1000-2000 phone.
And them being shitty about hiding the filesystem on iOS is practically 20 years old now too.
Nice meme from 2007
They looked for an older one but couldn’t one
costs less
In the entire history of Apple has this ever been true?
Even when they fired Jobs and tried to compete in capability, all of their stuff was more expensive than the competition.
and thats why i like microsoft
I disagree. Currently apple does way more technological advancements than we ever had. Imagine an rtx5090 performance in a small factor of a 300w box. But it is also 96gb of ram on top and it also have the fastest CPU on earth (blender benchmark). The entire Mac mini M6 costs like a single 5090.
And considering how android moves backwards, enshittifies, removing features and adding fuckton of tracking, while apple is moving towards preserving privacy and anti-ai.
Don’t get me wrong, apple is still a walled garden, but they don’t even block you from installing Linux on their apple silicon macbooks.
You’ve only further convinced me further that apple cultists are beyond saving.
Android can be forked and modified, and at least a decent portion of the devices it runs on can have their bootloaders unlocked. Apple has never offered that functionality to iOS to users without the users taking it themselves.
As for the M6, you must be smoking the strongest shit in the world if you think that a specialized application benchmark is an indicator that the mac hardware is universally superior in all computing roles (try gaming on it if you would like to see what I mean).
Apple’s privacy standards are not a monolith by any means (Remember the deleted photos being restored incidents), and if you don’t think they will sell you out then I have a memecoin for you to invest in.
Also, the entire Asahi Linux project is largely made without endorsement or official documentation. It’s similar in circumstance to the people getting android to run on iPhones - possible but not supported or condoned.
And considering how android moves backwards, enshittifies,
Android is becoming a closed ecosystem like apple was from the start
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