• roofuskit@lemmy.world
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    First and foremost this would be a HUGE boon for small businesses. They are currently hugely outclassed in offering benefits which hampers hiring. It’s also significantly more costly per employee for them.

    Second, huge boon for employees who can change jobs left and right regardless of life circumstances. Currently the best way to improve your wages and/or get promoted to a bigger position is to get a job at a new company.

    Third, huge boon for entrepreneurs who can now take bigger risks to start a new business because regardless of what happens, they don’t have to worry about losing their healthcare

    All of these things will have long term knock-on effects of leveling the opportunities for non wealthy people as well.

    I’ll say it for the millionth time. Every single stance the GOP takes is bad for small businesses, bad for the economy, bad for the country.

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      I’ll say it for the millionth time. Every single stance the GOP takes is bad for small businesses, bad for the economy, bad for the country.

      Bad for PEOPLE in general.

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      Very well said. My old man can attest to the struggle of running a small-business with a couple employees while managing the overhead of health insurance both for himself, and them.

      This is honestly how Democrats should be pushing it: We’re Pro Small-Business. (1) Entrepreneurship, (2) Innovation, (3) True competition, (4) Keeping money within communities… I could go on.

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      “Big news tonight. Congress has officially passed the Healthcare for All Bill with unanimous support, also, the Cleveland Browns have won the Super Bowl!”

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      I’ve got a bowel obstruction 2 years ago and i had to pay 6k for my deductible and my insurance paid 12k. I got a tube down my nose, some xrays and stayed a night. I currently know its going to happen again any day now and it almost happend two nights ago and I was in horrendous pain. I could go to the doctor and they could probably help me and stop it from happening again. However, I dont have 6k to spare to find out. So until it is debilitating, we’ll just have to see what happens.

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        That sucks.

        Ive got shitty US insurance. Had to have the ol’ gallbladder removed. Hospital charged $40k. After insurance, my bill was less than $3k. Lots of people would be financially ruined by that math. Im thankful I had the $3k to pay.

        It’s hard out there, but at least we’re letting gun owners carry into Hawaiian grocery stores.

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          Ive got shitty US insurance.

          Which is actually the best kind of insurance for bowel obstructions.

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    More entrepreneurship. Plenty more people would work for themselves or start businesses if they didn’t have to worry about healthcare.

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    The economy would skyrocket. Everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE would benefit. And there are people in this country so vile they would lose out on billions or trillions in profits just to screw over the masses. Imagine companies not having to pay 10-20k+ per employee for healthcare. Employees getting preventative care, being healthy, and being more … PRODUCTIVE!

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    Several people I know would retire from management level positions. It would energize upward advancement in a number of institutions.

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    Many companies would lose profit. Many greedy fucks would not be able to afford their third yaht and fifth house.

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    Things happening to you medically would stop defining your life. I called for a check on something, get a date in 2 days and be scheduled for a radiology, all 100% free.

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      In Canada it’s more like 30 days or more, and you could expect a US single.payer system to be less efficient since it hasn’t been refined for several decades

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        The US would be switching to an entirely different system, but wouldn’t be able to “refine” it? What a bunch of unprovable bullshit.

        Also, if you think the US doesn’t already have waiting lists for specialists, then I honestly do not know what to tell you. Wait times are not a uniquely socialized medicine thing.

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          Yep, I’ve seen 6+ month wait times in the US for some of the specialists my kids have needed. Some of those were fairly urgent issues

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          The US would be switching to an entirely different system, but wouldn’t be able to “refine” it? What a bunch of unprovable bullshit.

          Not 10 minutes after they implement it, no. Canada has a mature system that’s been worked on for decades. Are you suggesting the US would be automatically better just because it’s the US? What are you, a MAGA?

          Also, if you think the US doesn’t already have waiting lists for specialists

          I’ve been to a variety of specialists, it’s never taken anywhere near a month. My understanding is that in Canada a month is the norm, sometimes longer.

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    Hope would exist again and every american could get back to pursuing happiness rather than lock in on survival mode only.

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    I don’t think the positive differences would be as dramatic as some here are proposing.

    It would immeditately benefit a lot of people with existing large medical bills or chronic health conditions. But this probably wouldn’t be an immeditately noticeable economic boon - instead, it would take the form of these people unburying themselves from debt and building up savings.

    Over the long term, I would expect more small businesses, more people starting families, and more people choosing to retire earlier. But I think it would probably take a decade or more for this change to really be felt by those not directly impacted.

    In the short term, there would be a massive economic restructuring as the entire health insurance industry collapsed overnight. Literally millions of people would be out of work. In the long term, this would be a good thing - but short term, it would be a very big problem.

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    We all saw the Regressives cut Medicaid without caring that it meant millions of citizens losing their health insurance. With universal coverage we’d see similar but on a bigger scale. Regressives will always play up spite and self-righteousness , will always find a scapegoat who is “cheating”, will always play up high taxes being “bad for business”, plus of course we’d all like to pay less in taxes. We would still need the “face eating leopard” meme. Even then, it would be better for the rest of us, but it would still be the same fight

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    Instead of making people contractors to avoid paying benefits companies would make people employees to have more control over them.

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    FWIW universal healthcare is not single payer. Its nationalizing healthcare providers and doing away with health insurance entirely. Which is better than any single payer plan IMO. Hospitals have never really been successful profit generating ventures.

    The entire health insurance industry would be deleted along with all the jobs and stock value it produced. And yeah fuck’em but there’s going to be knock on economic effects from deleting an entire industry.