It is objectively a lot more male than Reddit or other social media. Reddit has many issues, but lack of women is not one of them.
This is like an echo champer of tech people, hard to find non-tech aware people here.
That was reddit when it first started it just takes time the problem is reddit people want to speed run this and created a bunch of communities then abandoned them or filled them with AI Slop. Only making it harder for stuff to grow organically. I do wish Lemmy and Piefed had a network global name space for communities like how IRC does channels.
Agree. I like tech and I’m subscribed to tech communities. But not a whole lot other than that here.
We’re here, we’re just self-aware enough not to make it too obvious. I just don’t even interact with half the content in all because I have no fucking clue what a “distro” is, is it like a mix between a disco and a bistro? Sounds fucking awesome actually, I’m in.
Skip the “all” feed. It’s not interesting to me either, even though I’m familiar with distros and such. I just read the “subscribed” where I’ll find stuff I care about.
There’s just not enough content. I come here to doom-scroll and troll trolls, it’s much harder to do that when most of the communities I’m actually interested in are nearly inactive or don’t exist at all.
Yeah, that’s a real problem. All the really interesting special communities get like 1 post a week at most.
There’s also a vocal minority of just really pessimistic people on here. Politics I don’t mind as long as it’s a discourse about not only what is bad but what can be reasonably done about it.
I’ve been in several discussions where I add “look at community, we are strong together” and it’s immediately beaten down with “the world won’t change things are shit and always will be, be mad and angry about it, I’m mad and angry at you”.
It’s the internet, I’m not surprised. But I’ve definitely had to disconnect myself for a bit some days after severe reactions from people just to remember it’s just strangers on the internet.
It’s not all the time, but for some discussions that promote inclusion and understanding to be met with the hard “I don’t agree so you are human garbage” can be an awful whiplash sometimes.
reading the top comments on this post, strikes me they reflect the founders of lemmy
maybe we’ll get more joy from the piefeds
I was gonna say something similar, like the amount of times I’ve wanted to look into some political topics and seeing comments encouraging violence make it hard for me to feel motivated just to stay informed. I get being angry, but damn, cue Mr. Rogers “what do we do with the mad that we feel?”
- Lemmy is by and large populated with ex-Redditors, who bring with them some of the same hivemind on certain topics. Eg: Lemmy is very anti-AI or nuanced discussions thereon. Nuclear is bad, etc. Makes bad faith discussions on certain topics almost certain.
- As everywhere else - there’s too much “you’re either on my team or you’re against me” - though notably less than in other spaces
- Upvote / downvote counts: these should be yeeted into the garbage pile of history.
Things Lemmy does well
- Less performative engagement.
- Less American (but arguably that’s still too much for some).
- Despite it all, a measure of civility still exists. Rare.
- You can create your own instance and be ungovernable :)
- No algorithmic engagement bullshit (so far)
- I don’t feel like I have to walk on eggshells every time I post something.
I personally find Lemmy a great deal more pleasant to interact on, with strong pre 2010 forum vibes and I feel that’s a good thing. YMMV
TL;DR: There’s a lot less “look at me, look at me!” on Lemmy and it’s all the better for it.
eggshells
Many, especially political and news communities ban opinions that are mainstream in the Democratic Party because they aren’t left enough. If they are powermods, they will happily ban you from dozens of communities and instances.
Having to block 30 different communities because they’re all literally the same community.
It’s even worse for NSFW communities. We don’t need eleventy billion communities for the same super niche porn content.
That and people posting the same things on multiple communities because it technically fits even though there’s already a niche community specifically for that topic.
Crossposting the same post is kind of pointless still. You can browse all and won’t miss anything.
The NSFW stuff is mostly automated reposting from somewhere else. It’s low quality and kind of worthless.
The nice thing about having an instance dedicated to porn is that you can just block one instance, and that gets you 90% of the way there.
This is the biggest thing, in my opinion. Decentralization is a double-edged sword.
If I cared about my Lemmy usage more, I might be inclined to build myself a service that aggregates similar topics into larger groups.
Piefed has that feature already.
I have a few things.
This place has groups that are singlemindedly bloodthirsty and happy to see people hurt, particularly in the US, and don’t have a problem stating so.
Tangentially - the far left extolling the virtues of governing systems that have never really worked due to weak protections against takeover by bad actors and ignoring that those systems are just as corruptible as any other. Humans are f’d up and someone always games the system for personal or tribal advantage.
Linux. Yeah, it’s great. No, it cannot do everything Windows does, and we’re going to ignore that and deride you for playing AAA studio games that have anticheat that linux breaks or other software that doesn’t work on the OS. That’s your fault, we’ll be smug about it, and still recommend ditching Windows.
Conspiracies. This place acts like it has some superior thought or logic but as soon as something happens the conspiratards immediately make it a conspiracy and can’t be told otherwise regardless of logic - or accept a far more real but less exciting conspiracy. Everyone jumps on the bandwagon.
Lastly it’s missing the hobby and interest groups. It’s mostly memes and politics. I’d like to see more actual communities of interests and support for hobbies on the Fediverse rather than the constant grind of how f’d up the world is.
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This place has groups that are singlemindedly bloodthirsty and happy to see people hurt, particularly in the US, and don’t have a problem stating so.
It’s so tiring. I did my job, I voted, I told my friends to vote, I send a few emails every now and then to my reps, I go to protests, I try to self host and avoid some companies, and I cheer when foreigners say they want to distance from the US. I live, still. But it’s hard to not feel like shit when every other post or comment is “If you guys love guns so much then use them,” and, “All Americans are trash and wanted this,” and, “If Nepal could do it, why can’t they do it too?”
It’s exhausting to hear. It’s not that simple. We can’t just solve every political issue with weapons and violence, because then you just get another tyrant pn the throne eventually. We are not all racists who are eager to see our immigrant neighbors get kidnapped from the streets. I feel helpless about the suffering that is happening around me, and the fact that people who aren’t here experiencing it just get to joke, laugh, and shame makes it hard to stay on this site sometimes.
conspiracies
Lots of outright misinformation gets posted and cheerfully upvoted, if it confirms biases.
Antisemitism is so widespread, it’s actually scary.
I am forced to see posts in communities I am banned from for having an anti-ai stance AKA a working brain. I didn’t block all of them soon enough.
What I am saying is that you should still be able to block communities you are banned from. Seeing them in my feed and being unable to get rid of them is like seeing cockroaches in a kitchen.
You should be able to add them on the Blocks tab of this page. There’s a text box you can fill in with the community name. It’s more annoying than pressing a button but maybe less than continuing to see the content.
You are a genius.
Honestly, they should just automatically be blocked if you are banned from them.
Sounds like it would be a good bug report.
If you get banned from your own instance, all your posts and communities you created are deleted. Lots of posts get deleted because of this.
How would someone get banned from their own instance? Do you really own it if you can get banned from it?
Other meaning: “If you get banned from [the instance where you created your user account]” might clear it up. It’s not their own instance in the sense that they are in control of the system but it is the one they might consider “home”.
Compare this against a case where a lemmy.world user gets an instance-wide ban from the admins on lemmy.ml, for example: user can’t participate in .ml communities but it doesn’t nuke their account.
I see. I guess home instance might be a phrase we should spread to avoid these kinds of confusions.
No way! Why should I get banned? It’s the ai slop communities full of no-talent ass clowns who should be banned.
It is objectively a lot more male than Reddit or other social media.
Reddit circa 2010 was very male, nerdy, and often misogynistic. As it gained popularity, the community became more diverse. As it got more traction, these issues abated somewhat. Once it hit critical mass and became totally mainstream, the audience was diverse enough to make most people forget how it used to be. I miss when Reddit was at the “sweet spot” of being pretty diverse, yet not corporatized to shit.
Lemmy/Fediverse is still in its “early Reddit” stage now. It shows great potential but its basic premise and design probably prevents absolute mainstream adoption. Which is probably a good thing, but I would like to get closer to the sweet spot.
Tankies, no niche subs; no gearheads here either.
Also you annoy the hell out of me with your constant anti-AI and pro-Linux bullshit.
Yes I use Linux. Yes I understand why you don’t like AI. I’m not the biggest fan myself. I just don’t make it my entire personality.
Community is too small
I think most of the things I find annoying about the fediverse (echo-chamber, lack of interactions overall, no real place for discussing extremely niche interests) stem from the fact that it is not big enough so…
I don’t think it is a terrible thing per-se though, small communities have lots of upsides too
North Korea shill. Seriously. How absolutely dumbfuck do you have to be to actually believe there is even the slightest good in that regime? It hurts me personally that I’m Korean and that I’ve seen countless people, some I’ve met in person, who lost their families in that hellhole. And yet people who can’t even spell Kim Jong Un or Juche are celebrating that prison of a kingdom.
Nothing about them are “left” or “progressive”. To me, they’re worse than MAGA shitheads.
Absolutely disgusting. Hope they all rot in North Korea.
Nothing about them are “left” or “progressive”. To me, they’re worse than MAGA shitheads.
I’ve been for the legalisation of weed since like 2006 and I still get creeped out by people who are like “well at least weed is legal in North Korea”.
Like bitch please there’s no dank dank enough to compensate for even a miniscule portion of the shit that goes on in NK.
Not to mention the punishment for breaking a law of that level where I live is a fine.
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I only see three blocked replies to this so I guess they posted their opinion already. But do you have the impression this got worse recently? Has it been like that for long?
I got drastically more hate replies recently, also pro NK etc
Mostly just the ratio of news/politics to fun/hobby posts. It’s stuff I could already find on any other news platform or social media, and there’s seldom discourse about the topics. It’s often just negativity or some type of leftist gatekeeping. I’d rather just go to the AP news page and read it there.
I like seeing everyone’s art, woodworking, 3D prints, origami, nature photos, and all that other good stuff way more. I like learning about you guys and your interests and I think having a small platform allows that, but many of us either forgot how to share things online or are too you to have ever been a part of mailing lists or IRC and the like.
I use mastodon and pixelfed to share that stuff but I should start posting here.
I’d be glad to see it!
Also thinking about it more, it would be cool to see more people write posts on how to get into hobbies, cool beginner projects that are maybe below the poster’s skill level but would make good first projects for people, or instructable type posts. Things anyone could do with little to no experience.
I really like how the origami community was doing theme weeks where we could share different animals we attempted.
I appreciate your owl posts, Anon! 🦉 💖🌛
And I appreciate you reading them! 🦉❤️
Spez has taken to suppress progressive views in Reddit such as banning even any discussion of violence in order to make his platform more attractive to mainstream hobbyists… and shareholders. That’s why here you have more political discussions and leftist viewpoints, many from ex-Redditors who were kicked out just because they wanted to punch Nazis.
I do get that, and with the .ML group starting this platform, of course there are a lot of kinds of leftist people here. In a way I enjoy it, even if I don’t agree with a number of people’s views. Spending time here has really made me confused as to what descriptor I could put on my general set of political beliefs.
The part that frustrates me is all posts are either every comment just says the same thing (ie. This person sucks, may some disaster fall upon them.) or it turns into people bickering about who is the best type of leftist. So I get people complaints about either “group think” or that everyone is just fighting each other in every thread like how communists and anarchists seem to have done for the past century.
I don’t see much education, discussion/debate, or anyone organizing or promoting direct action like I’d hope. I’m not a real fan of the ML philosophy, but someone like cowbee I see share a ton of reading material and educational stuff for their belief system is what I’d personally like to see more of from folks like the anarchists and dem socialists. I’d like to see people share stories from programs they’re involved in. I’d love to learn more about stuff like Food Not Bombs or how people are trying to unionize, not from news articles, but by the people here on Lemmy.
Being here got me to take action helping the wildlife in my community, and I’d like to hear about other people actually becoming forces of change. If all of us just stay behind a screen arguing with each other, what is the point of that? You guys have to be up to some good stuff, and I want to see it and be inspired. I got near infinite mainstream news sites if I want to be annoyed and worked up, but I’m here.
Yeah, but by ceding that we let this fall to being only a place for such things. If there’s nothing to draw people who are anything other than actively seeking these topics we wind up in an isolation chamber of radicalization and not really convincing anyone who doesn’t already agree with us.
Sometimes I don’t really want to get into a conversation about trans issues. I find the topic very prevalent on here, as if I’ve strayed into a sub by accident. Live and let live, and absolutely respect everyone’s right to be whatever they want, but it’s not a topic I can contribute to - and I certainly I don’t want to upset anyone by wading into an emotive topic I have no experience, interest or knowledge on, so I’d rather just leave it.
I’m just saying that it’s up there with LINUX as a prevailing topic, which I’m similarly disinterested in.
Tankies
It’s full of ignorant twats, just like everywhere else. The only difference is in what they are ignorant about
The extremist idiots. Entire lemmy.ml is incredibly disgusting bunch of losers.
Came here to say “Tankies”, but you seem to have it covered.
