cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43334510

The Department of Justice spoke four separate times to a woman who credibly accused Donald Trump of having sex with a minor he met through Jeffrey Epstein—but most accusations against the president appear to have been removed from the government’s documents on the alleged sex trafficker.

21-page slideshow buried in the massive trove of Epstein-related documents included allegations that sometime between 1983 and 1985, Trump forced a woman to give him oral sex when she was in her early teens. When the woman bit down on Trump’s exposed penis, he allegedly punched her in the head and kicked her out. That same woman told the DOJ that Epstein had introduced her to Trump in 1984.

Yet last week, Attorney General Pam Bondi insisted that there was “no evidence” that Trump had committed any crime—adding to the growing pile of denials from Trump officials that constitute a sweeping cover-up of the president’s alleged wrongdoing.

Justice Department records indicate that the FBI spoke to this woman not once but at least four separate times, according to independent journalist Roger Sollenberger. Now those records appear to have been removed from public viewing—despite the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which requires all documents relating to the alleged sex trafficker to be made public.

Sollenberger discovered a record of four separate interviews, which took place in the summer of 2019, in a separate database of documents downloaded from the government’s public files on Epstein. That document indicated that the first of the four interviews was conducted on July 24, 2019, and the last conducted on October 16, 2019. That document was given to Ghislaine Maxwell’s lawyers as part of her trial, though the specific allegations predated Maxwell’s involvement with Epstein, Sollenberger wrote.

The woman’s first interview was entered into the FBI’s case files on August 9, 2019, just one day before Epstein was found dead in his jail cell. FBI agents typically have a deadline of five working days to file interview write-ups, indicating an abnormal 16-day gap, Sollenberger noted.

  • Granbo's Holy Hotrod@lemmy.world
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    Who wrote this shit, “…Trump forced a woman to give him oral sex when she was in her early teens…” so a teenager or child and not a woman then?

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      Always the same language. Same deal with underaged black versus white kids. One is called a young man, the other a kid. Guess who is who.

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      We need to have a simple check in the government and media. Everyone who thinks a 13 year old is a woman please stand on this side of the room. Everyone else please leave the room. Then we drone strike the room with the earthquake bomb.

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      She’s a woman now, and was when the interviews occurred over 30 years after the sexual assaults.

      The woman was sexually assaulted when she was in her early teens.

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          As opposed to “forced a a teenager to have oral sex with him when washed was 30 years younger?”

          It literally specifies that she was a teenager when the crime occurred in the same sentence you’re criticizing.

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      I think the intended meaning is that she was a woman when the allegations were made but the (alleged) events took place when she was in her early teens.

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        I know we’re all programmed to give people the benefit of the doubt. To try to find sense in any situation. To use Hanlon’s razor.

        When it comes to Trump, please stop. He doesn’t deserve this excess of leniency. He’s a child rapist and murderer running the country. Do not try to find sense when there is nothing but cruelty and abuse. It makes a lot more sense when confronted by evidence of cruelty and malice at such a staggering scale to use a reverse Hanlon’s razor with Trump.

        They’re called women to purposefully obfuscate the fact Trump beat and raped a little girl. One of many.

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      tbf, establishment dems/R’s have kept this shit under wraps much more tightly for…decades, obviously. with zero intention of ever holding anyone accountable

      unironically the most transparent president/administration ever, because he’s too unawares/dementiad to even remotely control his projections and the jackals he’s got running the place are so proud in their corruption they carry it out openly

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        So it’s “transparency through incompetence”, the corrolary to “security through obscurity”

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    I don’t even know what to say about how ham-fisted and just plain dumb this attempt to rewrite history is. What’s depressing is that for far too many people, it’ll still work.

    If we make it through this, history textbooks are going to need to have chapters on what cult-think does to people, and like half of it will be about MAGA.

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      You mean like Hitler and Germany?

      We already have history textbooks about this… there’s even a pretty popular book that is a great allegory for what’s going on. Based sometime in the 1980s I believe.

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        The internet has given us a nice archive of the thoughts of brainwashing victims that didn’t exist in Nazi Germany.

        Personally I think Brave New World is a better representation of our dystopia than 1984. People aren’t trying to avoid thoughtcrime because they’re afraid of a boot to the neck (yet) but are instead lulled into complacency by a “keep your head down” culture and lulled into complicity by a “choose your own truth” media landscape.

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      The optimist in me hopes it’s some malicious compliance on the part of the low level employees who do the actual work.

      The realist in me is pretty sure it’s just incompetence all the way down.

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      But Harris didn’t say she was going to solve all the world’s problems immediately! She wanted to personally murder every single Palestinian person. Or something.

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        She had a funny laugh.

        But realistically she had a vagina and voters aren’t super fond of that. If she’d have been a man, she’d have won. I’ll get downvoted and accused of being misogynist but it’s voters who are, especially women.

        And now she’s running again and god help us if the party makes the same mistake in 2028, if we have real elections.

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          Yea, your take is absolutely not realistic in the slightest.

          She lost because she was a genocide enabling, corporatist pig who tried to demand votes from people that she refused to represent the interests of.

          Her being a woman had nothing to do with why she lost. The only people who gave a shit about that were Republicans and they were never going to flip sides to begin with regardless of how much the Democrats try to capitulate to them.

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            She lost because she was a genocide enabling, corporatist pig who tried to demand votes from people that she refused to represent the interests of.

            Because Trump was certainly none of those things. He totally represented working class people, immigrants, and world peace. There is obviously nothing that Trump has done past and present that would suggest otherwise.

            The only difference between him and Kamala is… What again? Sorry, I’m having a hard time finding anything different between the two of them other than their genitals.

            She 100% lost because she is a woman. People would rather vote for their own economic demise and livelihood rather than vote for a woman. Don’t give Americans too much credit, the majority of them can’t even fucking read.

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              Miss me with the false dichotomy bullshit. Just because someone was against Kalama doesn’t mean they are an advocate for Trump.

              Your simple minded perspective is no excuse for your lack of understanding about politics.

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      Bro the people that didn’t vote for harris ain’t here. Not enough of them to realistically blame, anyway.

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        But how else do people like this feel superior without having an under class to constantly shit on? By the merit of their own achievements? Hah!

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          Its mostly people that are too “individualism pilled” to realize that trump and maga are a fabricated phenomena by wealthy individuals who have been given too much power by society.

          And realistically its not that people are wholly misinformed, just a mix of optimistic, detached, isolated, and understandably angry.

          The vast majority of people didn’t foresee what is happening now but its clear the DNC did and saw a lot of acceptable risks in the way they dealt with biden and harris.

          I’d call the real issue the “Chuck Schumer worldview”

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      Really tired of you pathetic embarassed republicans blaming leftists for the election loss. Leftists overwhelmingly voted for Harris. Your “centrists” hated her.

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    Is there anyone from this administration that doesn’t deserve to end up mulched and chummed?

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    So the FBI had an interview about the then president sexually assaulting/raping a child and them punching her in the face when it didn’t go his way. The interview evidence gets mishandled and instead of taking 5 business days required to file it took 12 business days. The next day the person who connected the President to these charges is found dead. With his brother requesting a secondary otopsy because he believed his brother was murdered, and the review showed they did not believe the death to be suicide. And the footage mysteriously having issues as well. And the people who moved the body had no recollection of removing a noose.

    This is nothing but a conspiracy, lol

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    Sometimes I wish I could be a believer in religion so that I might have solace that evil people will at least face divine justice in death even if they received no Earthly justice in life. Alas, the depressing truth is that evil coasts through life without facing justice all the time, and the good just as often fall victim to the machinations, crimes, and sadism of the evil and never find any justice, retribution or closure after it. It’s one of the reasons that I don’t believe unfortunately.

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      what did the king say to the pope? you keep em dumb, i’ll keep em poor

      the very idea that there is some space wizard that’ll make everything right in the end is a tool to keep the downtrodden complacent. opiate of the masses

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    So Jeffrey Epstein is pretty much just another partner or employee Trump threw under the bus. And I’m beginning to think it’s more the *latter.

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      100%

      Epstein got an unheard of sweetheart deal the first time he was charged, by then Florida AG Alex Acosta.

      Alex Acosta would then go on to be rewarded with a major cabinet position in Trump’s first term. Labor Secretary. Something he had no real experience with.

      Epstein got off very easy so he wouldn’t be compelled to talk, and Acosta was rewarded for facilitating it.

      Years later, during Trump’s first term, his Attorney General Bill Barr would go on to facilitate the murder of Epstein while in prison.

      It’s all just a massive criminal enterprise. They aren’t even bothering to hide it anymore.

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    I want this entire DOJ arrested and the CIA and FBI dismantled and replaced with a transparent agency that is beholden to America and the constitution. Anyone who worked with Mossad should be tried for treason

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    god help me my dad will huff and puff about biden this and biden that and some made up ‘good’ shit trump did whenever more trump shit comes out.

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        Lol, they absolutely will turn around and say he was while simultaneously saying there is no proof that Trump is a pedophile rapist. Remember when they were saying Biden was a pedo because he sniffed a baby? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

        These people’s perception of reality is fundamentally twisted. They will never admit they are wrong unless they are forced into a room to watch Trump actually fuck a child in front of them and even then more than half will try with every ounce of mental power they have to try and come up with some fallacy justification for why it’s not the same.

        These people are sick.

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        I don’t want to say that then have his name come up in the files later. Isn’t there still several terabytes unaccounted for?

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    Why are they allowed to take stuff down? We need the remaining files still and they’re allowed to take shit down?

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      They’re allowed because who’s going to stop them?

      They’re not allowed by law - they’re allowed simply by being in control of who enforces the law. This kind of government corruption would normally be investigated by the DOJ… Except it’s the DOJ doing it, and the only people who might be able to anything about that (the legislature and judiciary) are complicit.