Programmers are cooked.

  • BanMe@lemmy.world
    321·
    3 months ago

    As a web designer (well, customizer/reseller for small businesses) I definitely thought I was done for when I heard AI could spit out a functional website in one prompt. Then I saw some examples and realized it’s just going to be another thing clients bring me, begging for a fix. No problemo, small upcharge.

      • BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca
        5·
        3 months ago

        They may just be fucked front ends running completely client side, with broken functionality due to no backend

  • ebolapie@lemmy.world
    20·
    3 months ago

    I gave Claude a shot at guiding me through an install of a matrix home server the other day. It got about halfway through before it absolutely shat itself. I mean like going in circles and completely incapable of breaking itself out.

    And that’s for a fairly easy sysadmin task. Not even doing it right, just doing it to the point where the service can be brought up and be accessible. I cannot believe anyone is under the impression that these bots are going to take anyone’s jobs. The only thing that’s going to “destroy jobs” is the rabid desperation management has to destroy labor.

    • OR3X@lemmy.world
      8·
      3 months ago

      Yeah that’s a common issue I’ve seen with Gemini and ChatGPT as well. They can do simple tasks but as soon as it’s something that requires more than a 5-6 steps, or if there are complications along the way they will get lost. Also ChatGPT will commonly just make up commands if it doesn’t actually know how to do something.

      • ebolapie@lemmy.world
        3·
        3 months ago

        I will say that after I went back to my normal usage pattern of going as far as I could alone and then asking the chatbot what went wrong it did save me a ton of time by suggesting I check whether caddy was importing from conf.d, which it wasn’t.

        I would have gotten there eventually, but not was it nice not having to hunt through snarky unhelpful forum comments on my own.

        • rustyj@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 months ago

          I just did a long winded reply to your other comment before seeing this one. Seems like we landed in the same place! Hope the server is working well you

          • ebolapie@lemmy.world
            1·
            3 months ago

            It’s been a good decade since I did any “serious” sysadmin tasks.

            I get to do it again because it appears we actually do want some features synapse supports that conduit doesn’t, door knocking being a big one. I also get to write user facing documentation as well; the “techy” person I enlisted to help me test the core conduit services got very frustrated by the onboarding process even with my handholding.

            I sound annoyed but I genuinely love doing this kinda stuff. I’m stupid, and figuring out where I screwed up is fun. Plus I get to make an onboarding webpage to explain things, which is gonna be loads of fun

    • rustyj@lemmy.world
      4·
      3 months ago

      I did the same thing a few days ago, but I’m also pretty well versed with self hosting tedious-to-configure services. I would have spent hours rabbit-holing before setting up, and Claude just sped up the process.

      I spent most of my time researching and forming an action plan, arguably the most important piece. Within two hours I had a Matrix server stood up with element-web, as well as coturn for calls. Setting up Element-Call for groups took a little longer, but not terrible all told.

      I guess what I’m saying is if you’re experienced with a given task, it can be a really great tool to speed things along. If you want to sit back and have it run the show, you’re going to have a rough time.

    • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      3 months ago

      In the really early days a guy who loved trolling before trolling had a name had a link on his website that just pointed to the users downloads folder. Really freaked out some people that clicked on it.

        • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          3 months ago

          I hung in a sysadmins channel on IRC. There was always a new bug/exploit. So many there was never a shortage of ways to lock up or break a windows installation. They would just post random links and hope someone clicked on it. I always used lynx to look at them. It was fun and no one considered at the time using them to steal or rip off people with them.

  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    13·
    3 months ago

    And it’s ten million lines of typescript on ten nested frameworks.

    And the website: “Hello world!”

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
    4·
    3 months ago

    Pretty much sums up a lot of younger people who didn’t grow up learning far more hands-on basic computer use. Z and A are gonna be the “AI” generation that surrenders the last of critical thought and hands it all to walled gardens of instant, tailored, and curated information.

    • BCsven@lemmy.ca
      6·
      3 months ago

      It’s already happening.

      We get support tickets from professional engineers.

      Sometimes it is “my software isn’t working send me how to get it working.” No details on what is not working or what they were doing, so we have to dig the information from them. Like “is your computer on, do you have a network connection, are you connected to your work server, oh you thought google search access is same as VPN to work? …”

      Its rare to get somebody on the call that says “when I open this file and do this, this other thing happens, and here is the sample file and steps I did”

      Other things are like: “This software is supposed to output this in this way, but it’s not.”
      So we open the dialog and watch their steps, software says select objects to export, they are clicking Ok with no result, so we have to point out the message they are supposed to read…see where it says select an object to export, and it is highlighted in yellow to draw your attention and has a red asterisk? Yes? Well they are talking to you, you have to do the action required.

      I can understand grandma not understanding software, but an engineer is supposed to be a problem solver.

    • BCsven@lemmy.ca
      4·
      3 months ago

      That’s the joke. Guys says his job is done for, by buddy building a website via chatgpt, except the guy knows nothing about how the internet works.