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    How was anyone supposed to know he was gonna do the things he said he wanted to do. 1000002742

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    Donald Trump was a lot of peoples’ fault. One article nailing him doesn’t cancel out all the articles that normalized or sane washed him, or ran with his narrative. Nor does it undercut all the well-justified mistrust of legacy American media. It’s not as if people started trusting pundits out of nowhere - they started looking for commentary and news from alternate sources because yeah, actually, a lot of legacy media does report like they serve their wealthy owners. Not that MAGA pundits don’t, but that’s beside the point.

    Hell, even right now, they’re generally running with the narrative that Trump’s Israel-Gaza ceasefire has been effective by not reporting that Israel still murders many innocent Palestinians every day.

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    many of his most reckless efforts in his first administration were stymied only because of others in his administration who blocked, delayed or watered down his aims to ensure that he could not put himself above the law or the country.

    I often wonder what would have happened if his first term was unleashed. Eg if McCain voted yes to dismantle ACA. If Trump got his way the first time, would he have gotten in the second?

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      If Trump had gotten his way the first time, we’d be in a fascist dictatorship that is 9 years old now instead of one.

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      I think the most important thing about this era is to understand how the fuck this happened. I have no answers and have never heard anything convincing. I think if humanity lasts long enough, hundreds of years of scholars will be trying to understand it. Most people on earth could’ve predicted most of this shit, yet no amount of spreading that knowledge made a fucking difference. If nothing else, this tells us how unbelievably irrational humans are.

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          You’re right about all of this. What I can’t fathom though – is that in the past, facts mattered. A lot. How did all of the propaganda literally erase that entirely? That’s what I cannot figure out. It’s not like the internet invented the concept of the lie. Before social media, at least most people would have some skepticism and if nothing else, ask their smart friend. How the hell did that go away?

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              We are not a logic, rational creature. Our brains are not machines for working out problems, they’re machines for telling stories to create a coherent narrative.

              I gotta push back against this. It’s much more complicated than this. Humans have a complex brain, with some parts matching this description perfectly, and others that do not at all. If we were not capable of both being rational and prioritizing facts, we’d probably still be roughly the same as chimpanzees. Instead, we developed incredibly complicated systems for accomplishing long term goals, and throughout human history, cooperation based on rational thought has played a huge role in the direction our species took. Hell, without that ability, there probably wouldn’t have ever been a coherent ruling class. They wouldn’t have been able to put all the pieces in place to hoard wealth indefinitely.

              What I see now as a distinct change is that rational thought just literally gets turned off at will, at any moment. In the past, 98% of people would watch a video of a crime and agree at least roughly on what happened. Now people literally seem to deny what their visual cortex perceives in favor of something they heard already. That is new.

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                  I wasn’t very clear about the cooperation part. What I mean wasn’t that you have to be rational to cooperate. What I’m saying is that you have to be rational to plan out things that take dozens or hundreds of years and effectively utilize the cooperation of thousands of individuals who are all looking to solve the same problem.

                  You are using modern societal issues like inequality as evidence that we aren’t rational, but I dispute that strongly. Those problems used to be much, much worse, literally because the ruling class used a rational but evil plan to take care of themselves. Because of rational working class fighting back in a very organized and rational manner at a few different points in history, we made progress against them. We don’t have a 40 hour work week or OSHA in America because a bunch of emotional and angry public kept trying random things without a thought. We have those things from planning and hard work. Both are examples of being entirely rational.

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        No, most of them are just racist enough that they genuinely don’t care what else happens so long as non-whites suffer.

        Then large swaths of people who chugged the propaganda Kool-aid into thinking any other group of people achieving 1 more right or freedom meant all of theirs were being stripped away.

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    I don’t disagree with the content of this post but take this OPs hour-old account with a large grain of salt; this is likely another self deleting spam account.

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    I can see the URL, I know it’s the NY Times … but it feels like it could just as well be a link to the Book of Revelation. Fuck this timeline sucks

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    This is Lemmy. Ain’t no one here surprised by this. We’ve been shouting at each other that this would happen for 2 years.

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    The only thing I’m aware of which was predicted by anyone which he hasn’t done or tried to do is launch nukes at North Korea. Which he has threatened that. I think he’s enough of a psychopath that he is not above launching nukes if he ever finds himself in the position Hitler did. I mean why wouldn’t he? He’s shown us thousands and thousands of times that he cares about a singular person and that is himself.

    But yeah, every fucking concern we had has been validated and then some. And these fucking zombies don’t care because they somehow can pretend he does nothing wrong, literally no matter what.

    Never has there been a more disappointing time to have a working brain. All of this would’ve made way more sense before everyone could instantly check facts any time they wanted. Yet somehow, that ability made people less informed. I get that propaganda works and all, but I still will never understand how people could remain so adamantly ignorant when it’s genuinely so easy to learn and to stop being ignorant. I could even understand a world where people hate Trump’s specific actions but support a lot of the things he does. Would still be disappointing but it would make sense. Instead we live in a world where he can do anything and be loved for it no matter how heinous.