• DarkCloud@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    225
    ·
    2 months ago

    Remember, this didn’t just happen. It was brought about by tech billionaires backing Trump, each paying him 1 million dollars just to stand behind him on inauguration day, by the Heritage foundation, by wealthy people like JD Vance, and the rest of the administration. This was enabled by a class of people without morals and compassion, who do not care for your country.

    • ebolapie@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      44
      ·
      2 months ago

      Quick reminder to anyone reading, since the other reply here implied implications about what is to be done: whatever your opinions on violence may be you should never, under any circumstances, suggest that yourself or others should or will commit violent or illegal acts in your own country or countries that your country has extradition treaties with.

      The revolution will not happen on Lemmy or any other public forum. You can only hurt yourself and your fellow travelers by posting violent threats or incitement to other illegal activity. Do not post credible threats. The cops can and will show up at your house.

  • thejoker954@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    117
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    2 months ago

    Being an activist ≠ ok to be killed.

    Or am I just being confused by poor wording in title?

    • MehBlah@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      2 months ago

      She wasn’t what they said she was. She was just a mom dropping her kid off at school. Still confused?

      • slappyfuck@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        2 months ago

        In case anyone didn’t see, there were tons of reactionaries online saying that she was an activist and “fuck around and find out” etc. Just the most disgusting craven nonsense imaginable.

  • cambodia@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    60
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    Who cares if she was an activist. Nothing what happened that day merits an execution.

  • danc4498@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    51
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    Regardless of what excuse the ICE fascist make, there is ZERO reason he should have pulled out his gun and shot her.

    He didn’t want to get run over? Well how is killing the driver going to stop the car from moving?

    • innermachine@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      2 months ago

      Yea shits all fucked up with this. I mean when he merced her, as you would expect with somebody already accelerating, she went limp and hammered down into a parked car. If she was trying to hit him when he fired and he was in her line of travel, he would have been split in half as she smacked into whatever’s in front of her. If he feared for his life he would have rolled out of the way and engaged in pursuit after. This is an untrained, trigger happy goon that did not join ice to deport people for any of the right reasons. This is somebody that joined from the get to get “me liberul blood” on their hands with the full backing and faith of the us govt. Not only is it legal for them to take the life of their political opponents, but they make something to the tune of 100k to do it. Calling them political assassins is just being accurate, I mean this pig just did his country a favor by offing a “domestic terrorist” in their eyes.

    • Eheran@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      The last point is really not an argument - even if he ended up getting killed too. You could, for example, say he wanted to save others and make him an hero.

      • danc4498@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 months ago

        Maybe. All the comments I see defending him call it self defense. I don’t think anybody was considering she would continue aiming for other ice agents.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      He didn’t want to get run over?

      Maybe he shouldn’t have gotten out of his unmarked vehicle wearing a mask and brandishing a weapon and approaching someone’s car and reaching into it to open the door when a woman who was pulling into the street stopped and waved at them to pass.

      • danc4498@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        All good points. You shouldn’t be allowed to detain anybody if you are not properly identified as law enforcement.

        Other wise it’s kidnapping and they should be allowed to protect themselves any way possible. I doubt this country will buy that argument though.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    2 months ago

    It doesn’t even necessarily matter what she was or wasn’t. It’s kind of irrelevant.

    She tried to wave a car by, like we’ve all done a million times, then two MASKED MEN got out of their UNMARKED TRUCK holding GUNS and one tried to REACH INTO HER VEHICLE TO OPEN THE DOOR.

    The fuck would you do?

    They weren’t there for her. They had no reason to interact with her.

    She could have had a rap sheet a mile long, doesn’t matter.

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    37
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    2 months ago

    Now Americans need to rebel, so Trump can declare martial law.
    It’s all going according to his evil plan.
    I wouldn’t bet on the midterm elections actually taking place.
    I hope good Americans find a way out of this, but the path is getting muddy.

      • Buffalox@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        2 months ago

        That could absolutely be the smarter way to do it. But I think it would have to be rigged HARD, and that could be a problem, because that could make it to obvious.
        Where a declaration of Martial Law could seem more plausible to the average American. Just create a lie big enough as they say.

    • Etnaphele@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      It will probably go on as all totalitarian regimes go: either a lot of blood and then hopefully freedom again, or Russia Reloaded. The pigs in charge for sure won’t leave anything willingly, you have to hang them by the feet (in a Mussolinian way I mean) if you want to break out of it… Any day spent whining and protesting peacefully is one day closer to the end of democracy and one day less they have to really fight. The moment democracy is being shit on is not on the next Election Day, it’s right now.

    • canofcam@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      This is not just “good americans” this seems to be a coordinated effort to destablise every western country. It will soon be the UK, it will soon be Europe.

      I have seen right wing people in the UK saying, “The United States of Greeland” as if somehow, handing it over to the US is in our best interest. The world could genuinely be fucked.

      • Buffalox@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        I don’t think they will, I have also written many posts that reflect that, I use the same numbers to say two thirds either voted for Trump, or were OK with him winning.
        If they weren’t OK with it they would have voted.
        So I think a very large portion of the population is actually OK with all the shit that is going on, or they don’t care.
        I also think the risk of American democracy ending with Trump is very high.
        How high IDK, maybe 20-30% or maybe higher. Certainly not below 20% And that’s an insanely high number for a country that has had democracy since 1789, although it was a very limited democracy, and it is still a deeply flawed democracy.
        But still many Americans have trusted the checks and balances, but Trump has shown several times that they don’t work.
        And the American population hasn’t shown nearly enough will to do anything to prevent it. And now we are at a point that even if they do, they may be playing directly into Trumps hands.

  • D_C@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    “Good was new to the area”
    She didn’t know the area, had just dropped her kid off at school, got caught up by the Gestapo, got (rightfully) scared, tried to swerve around it all…and then got shot in the head three times.
    Oh, and they’ve found out the guys name who did it btw.

  • LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    25
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    Yeah the nazi’s on my local nextdoor keep calling her a “paid anti-ice demostrator” or that she is a paid antifa actress or some BS.

    They refuse to use their eyes and ears and just stay in their fantasy land of unseasoned meals and fox news.

  • Basic Glitch@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    2 months ago

    Who would have thought that giving a bunch of barely literate bigots guns, and telling them they can do anything they want without consequences, would lead to one of those power tripping bigots murdering somebody for absolutely no fucking reason?

    This was totally unforeseeable.

  • MehBlah@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    She is dead because she probably didn’t show them the respect their tiny penises deserved.

  • Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    ORGANIZE PROTEST STRIKES IN ALL WORKPLACES!!! FIGHT THIS TERROR WITH UNITY!!! DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF THE ARRESTED PEOPLE!!! DEMAND THE DISSOLUTION OF THE ICE AND THIS GOV !!!

    STRIKE!!! STRIKE!!! STRIKE!!!

    Bring the entire economy of AMERICA to a standstill for one day:

    the shipyards, factories, workshops, offices and banks, municipal services, and public works!!

    MAKE YOUR DEMANDS CLEAR EVERYWHERE: FORCE THE ICE SCUM OUT, IMPEACH TRUMP, PUT HIM IN JAIL, AND BREAK THE STRANGLEHOLD OF BILLIONAIRE (TECH) POWER OVER OUR GOV, TAX THE RICH, FAIR WAGES AND NATIONAL HEALTHCARE!!!

    STAND UNITED!! BE COURAGEOUS!!
FIGHT PROUDLY FOR THE LIBERATION OF OUR COUNTRY!!!
    Friends: Pass this manifesto on after reading it.