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    9 months ago

    Most people everywhere are slightly left of centre*. Most leaders everywhere are slightly right of centre*.

    *Not in the American sense. Y’all crazy.

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    My priorities in politics is:

    1. Don’t wreck the economy.
    2. Uphold the rule of law.

    In my country that makes me right leaning. In the US with the current president that apparently makes me a leftist.

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    Not only that, I’ve tried pitching the fediverse to right wing people, but they didn’t bite.

    Even the crypto bros that were all about decentralization couldn’t see why a decentralized social media platform was superior.

    This also didn’t matter for people who care about “free speech”.

    You think the allure of being fully independent and having your own instance would be right up their alley given how they value independence, but nope.

    Seriously? Why isn’t there a right wing instance? My guess is that a right wing person can’t fathom owning something that benefits others which doesn’t give them back profit.

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      You think the allure of being fully independent and having your own instance would be right up their alley given how they value independence, but nope.

      Because it’s not about freedom of speech for them, it’s about freedom to force people to listen. Having their own server where they can shout at each other all day doesn’t serve their purpose. Their panties get wet by forcing others to listen.

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      Like everything on the right, decentralization is a means to an end, not a value in itself. They only care about it when it’s useful for helping them get ahead. Just like they only care about free speech when it’s them speaking to people who don’t want to hear their bullshit.

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      “free speech”, as your quotation marks imply, does not really exist outside of theory. In reality, free speech is a set of laws governing hate speech or other dangerous speech.

      Both the right and the left have ideas of what they think these laws should be.

      But there is no such thing as “free speech” in the real world.

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      there are 3 major right-wing instances: lemmy.ml(ran by the Lemmy developers), lemmygrad.ml(the openly fascist version of lemmy.ml) and hexbear.net.

      if anyone wants to argue, I don’t. Anyone supporting Russia is right-wing. Authoritarianism is inherently conservative, reactionary and therefore right-wing.

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    I believe all life have value, no matter what.

    I believe in justice and equality.

    I believe in the rule if law.

    I believe in democracy.

    I believe in the freedom of speech.

    I believe in religious freedom.

    I believe no one should go hungry.

    I believe no one should freeze.

    I believe no one should die from preventable diseases.

    I believe everyone has a right to education.

    I believe everyone has a right to healthcare.

    I believe everyone has a right to participate in society and the internet.

    I believe everyone should contribute if they can, because that is fair.

    I believe people should be able to retire.

    I believe most people are good, and want to do good.

    I believe in cooperation, and working towards a common goal.

    I believe that all people should have a minimum set of rights, that are non-negotiable.

    I trust my neighbours, my family and strangers.

    Based on these values I could be placed anywhere from center-right to far-left in Europe.

    In the US I am a filthy commie

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        I am unfortunately not. It was more meant as a way to say that for instance criminals (yes, even the worst ones) have value. That they deserve to live and have a decent life, no matter what.

        That immigrants and asylum seekers should be treated with respect and given the help they need.

        But also that animals have value. The way a lot of animals are treated is in no way acceptable.

        I have tried being a vegetarian in the past, but have failed every time.

        Sorry to disappoint. I wish I was better.

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          The ole’ carnist blind spot. It is extremely fatiguing to hold contradictory beliefs as you do, and to have to constantly edit your thoughts to protect yourself from the profound psychological effects of such contradictions. Having inconsistent beliefs means never being able to act according to your beliefs, never being genuine, never having integrity. It sucks to live like that and you’ll never know just how much it sucks until you stop. You think it’s harder to have integrity. It’s actually so much easier.

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            Its one of many contradictory ways I live my life. I am well aware of many of them, and change them gradually to align myself more with my beliefs. I find that I manage OK, but sometimes wish I was better.

            I’ll probably become ovo lacto flexitarian in the future. That was what I managed to be for the longest. And it has 80% of the same effect or more. The rule was that I never bought meat or made food with meat. When I was served meat at family or friends, I would just eat it then. It reduced all the social friction, and made it so much easier. I lasted for a year or two.

            Pure vegan is unrealistic short term for me. Maybe I’ll try in the future, or flexitarian vegan instead of ovo lacto flexitarian. Not sure.

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    If you consider Democrats left wing then yes, by far the most here are left wing, since by most European standards Democrats are clearly right wing.

    Republicans are extreme right by most standards. Republican (MAGA) is basically an American version of AfD!
    So by that standard I guess about 80% here are left wing, maybe even more?

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    By LEFT do you infer compassion, empathy, and class solidarity? In contrast, by RIGHT do you infer me-first, only my rights matter and only those in my clan deserve to be cared about?

    Then, yes.

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    Right wingers have, or cause, trouble in open forums, so most social media that isn’t operated as a walled garden, tends to be more left leaning.

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      Depends on what kinda right wingers your talking about Ik a few people who believe in more laissez-faire free market economic policies, and they’re pretty chill

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    Anti-Conservative

    There is no such thing as liberalism — or progressivism, etc.

    There is only conservatism. No other political philosophy actually exists; by the political analogue of Gresham’s Law, conservatism has driven every other idea out of circulation.

    There might be, and should be, anti-conservatism; but it does not yet exist. What would it be? In order to answer that question, it is necessary and sufficient to characterize conservatism. Fortunately, this can be done very concisely.

    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

    There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

    There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time.

    For millenia, conservatism had no name, because no other model of polity had ever been proposed. “The king can do no wrong.” In practice, this immunity was always extended to the king’s friends, however fungible a group they might have been. Today, we still have the king’s friends even where there is no king (dictator, etc.). Another way to look at this is that the king is a faction, rather than an individual.

    As the core proposition of conservatism is indefensible if stated baldly, it has always been surrounded by an elaborate backwash of pseudophilosophy, amounting over time to millions of pages. All such is axiomatically dishonest and undeserving of serious scrutiny. Today, the accelerating de-education of humanity has reached a point where the market for pseudophilosophy is vanishing; it is, as The Kids Say These Days, tl;dr . All that is left is the core proposition itself — backed up, no longer by misdirection and sophistry, but by violence.

    So this tells us what anti-conservatism must be: the proposition that the law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

    Then the appearance arises that the task is to map “liberalism”, or “progressivism”, or “socialism”, or whatever-the-fuck-kind-of-stupid-noise-ism, onto the core proposition of anti-conservatism.

    No, it a’n’t. The task is to throw all those things on the exact same burn pile as the collected works of all the apologists for conservatism, and start fresh. The core proposition of anti-conservatism requires no supplementation and no exegesis. It is as sufficient as it is necessary. What you see is what you get:

    The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

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    Progressive who’s been here for a bit. The fediverse has definitely swung more left-wing recently - when I first started up two years ago there was a fair amount of conservative bs, libertarian tech-bros and russian bots - it was about a 50/50 split depending on what instance you were on.

    The bot problem seems to have been largely dealt with now, and conservative voices have been more or less drowned out by the new influx of users fleeing twitter and Reddit crackdowns. Many are agreeing that the current administration is bad for everyone. There are a number of hard auth-left moral purity testers that kind of a pain in the ass that pop up from time to time.

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    When asked, I usually tell people that I vote Dem because it’s as close to my anarchist ideals as I can get. I would consider myself a social-anarchist, in that I feel laws shouldn’t be written around societal structures and ideals. Society and culture changes, and I shouldn’t be punished because some dude generations ago decided that something was inappropriate back then. It isn’t now, and shouldn’t be codified that way,