• taladar@sh.itjust.works
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    11 days ago

    Does it feel odd to anyone else that a platform for something this universally condemned in any jurisdiction can operate for 4 years, with a catchy name clearly thought up by a marketing person, its own payment system and nearly six figure number of videos? I mean even if we assume that some of those 4 years were intentional to allow law enforcement to catch as many perpetrators as possible this feels too similar to fully legal operations in scope.

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      It’s a side effect of privacy and security. The one side effect they’re trying to use to undermine all of the privacy and security.

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        This has nothing to do with privacy! Criminals have their techniques and methods to protect themselves and their “businesses” from discovery, both in the real world and in the online world. Even in a complete absence of privacy they would find a way to hide their stuff from the police - at least for a while.

        In the real world, criminals (e.g. drug dealers) also use cars, so you could argue, that druck trafficking is a side effect of people having cars…

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          This platform used Tor. And because we want to protect privacy, they can make use of it.

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      10 days ago

      with a catchy name clearly thought up by a marketing person

      A marketing person? They took “Netflix” and changed the first three letters lol

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          Pick any country where child marriage is legal and where women are a object the man owns

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          Context is important I guess. So two things.

          Is something illegal if it’s not prosecuted?

          Is it CSA if the kid is 9 but that’s marrying age in that country?

          If you answer yes, then no, then we’ll not agree on this topic.

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            I am not talking about CSA, I am talking about video material of CSA. Most countries with marriage ages that low have much more wide-spread bans on videos including sex of any kind.

            As for prosecution, yes, it is still illegal if it is not prosecuted. There are many reasons not to prosecute something ranging all the way from resource and other means related concerns to intentionally turning a blind eye and only a small minority of them would lead that country to actively sabotage a major international investigation, especially after the trade-offs are considered (such as loss of international reputation by refusing to cooperate).

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    Fuck man. I used to use a program called “Kidpix” when I was a kid. It was like ms paint but with fun effects and sounds.

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      I once saw a list of defederated lemmy instances. In most cases, and I mean like 95% of them, the reason of thedefederation was pretty much in the instance name. CP everywhere. Humanity is a freaking mistake.

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        Isnit not encouraging that it is ostracised and removed from normal people. There are horrible parts of everything in nature, life is good despite those people and because of the rest combatting their shittiness

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        I regularly see people on Lemmy advocating for pedophilia, at LEAST every 3 months as a popular, upvoted stance. I argue with them in my history

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          what he fuck I’ve never ran into anyone like that.don’t even wanna know where you do this regularly

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              I feel like what he’s trying to say it shouldn’t be the end of the world if a kid sees a sex scene in a movie, like it should be ok for them to know it exists. But the way he phrases it is questionable at best.

              When I was a kid I was forced to leave the room when any intimate scenes were in a movie and I honestly do feel like it fucked with my perception of sex a bit. Like it’s this taboo thing that should be hidden away and never discussed.

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              I’m sorry but classifying that as advocating for pedophilia is crazy. all they said is they don’t know about studies regarding it so they said “probably” instead of making a definitive statement. you took that word and ran with it; your response is extremely over the top and hostile to someone who didn’t advocate for what you’re saying they advocate for.

              It’s none of my business what you do with your time here but if I were you I’d be more cool headed about this because this is giving qanon.

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                They literally investigated specific time frames of their voyeurism kink in medieval times extensively, wrote several paragraphs in favor of having children watch adults have sex, but couldn’t be bothered to do the most basic of research that sex abuse is harmful to children.

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                  “they knew some things and didn’t know some things” isn’t worth getting so worked up over. they knew the mere concept of sex being taboo negatively affected them and didn’t want to make definitive statements about things they didn’t research. believe it or not lemmy comments are not dissertations and most people just talk and don’t bother researching every tangential topic just to make a point they want to make.

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        You’re just seeing “survivor’s bias” (as nasty as that sounds in this case) not a general representation.

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            There are a lot of pedophiles everywhere.

            Unfortunately, the really rich ones get away with it for a long time, and few get away with it forever.

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    With everything going on right now, the fact that I still feel physically sick reading things like this tells me I haven’t gone completely numb yet. Just absolutely repulsive.

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      I know I’m not heartless yet because I am still traumatized by the brick in the window video…

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    They also seized 72,000 illegal videos from the site and personal information of its users, resulting in arrests of 1,400 suspects around the world.

    Wow

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      Or a Netflix for children/video editing app for primary schoolers in the early 2000s/late 1900s.

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    During the investigation, Europol’s analysts from the European Cybercrime Centre (EC3) provided intensive operational support to national authorities by analysing thousands of videos.

    I don’t know how you can do this job and not get sick because looking away is not an option

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      You do get sick, and I would be most surprised if they didnt allow people to look away and take breaks/get support as needed.

      Most emergency line operators and similar kinds of inspectors get them, so it would be odd if they did not.

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        Yes, my wife used to work in the ER, she still tells the same stories over and over again 15 years later, because the memories of the horrible shit she saw doesn’t go away

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      This kind of shit is why i noped out of the digital forensics field. I would have killed myself if I had to see that shit everyday.

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      I imagine it’s easier to catch uploaders than viewers.

      It’s also probably more impactful to go for the big “power producers” simultaneously and quickly before word gets out and people start locking things down.

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    Maybe Jeff Bezos will write an article about him and editorialize about “personal liberty”. I have to keep posting this because every day another MAGA/lover - religious bigot or otherwise pretend upstanding community member is indicted or arrested for heinous acts against women and children.