Serious answers only. For over a year I was told that trump “doesn’t have anything to do with that”.

I honestly need to know from an actual Republican who believed trumps words and is now witnessing p2025 almost hit 50% completion with the department of education getting dismantled.

And with that; how do these people feel that public schools, daycare centers and tech schools all going to cost 3-6x as much as it does now for tuition?

  • db2@lemmy.world
    1512·
    17 days ago

    Most are fine with it. Remember the people that died of covid denying it existed the whole time? That’s the type. They’re dumb af.

  • Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world
    75·
    17 days ago

    Just for some perspective: in 2009 I was a Christian nationalist and I thought Obama was going to use FEMA to imprison conservative dissenters and would turn the US into a communist dictatorship. I hoped and prayed for an explicitly Christian government and an end to most federal programs. If I had the same worldview now, I would be orgasmically happy with the way things are going.

  • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    29·
    17 days ago

    Republicans lie. As any fascist party, they don’t have any consistent ideology beyond hurting people. They’ll invent whatever reasoning and justification they need to justify their bullying, and they’ll immediately abandon that reason for another convenient excuse when necessary.

    Republicans lie. They knew damn well what Project 2025 was, and they were in favor of all of it. When they said Trump had nothing to do with it, they were lying. Republicans ultimately don’t care what happens to society, or even themselves personally. They would gladly vote to lower the quality of their own lives, as long as the undesirables were hurt in equal measure.

  • Libra00@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    17 days ago

    Oh no, the lying liar who is best known for lying about literally everything lied and gullible people believed it (or conveniently ignored it, or didn’t care or thought it was just peachy because they thought it wouldn’t apply to them and were perfectly fine with it applying to other people)? Who could possibly have predicted that? Oh wait, I think literally every left wing person in the US predicted that.

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
    10·
    17 days ago

    They don’t think Trump and Musk are doing anything wrong. When quizzed they’ll ask you to name anything they’ve done wrong.

    Everything Trump and Musk are doing is guised in Libertarian and Conservative values.So nothing wrong has been done on their eyes.

    If you go places like r/JordanPeterson (to ask) and r/Conservative to observe the media landscape - you’ll see that “The Woke” are wrong and have turned violent against Tesla. You’ll see Trump and Musk are thought of as doing great things.

    That’s how they think. They’re not in the same media landscape as everyone else is.

    • Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world
      3·
      16 days ago

      I think it’s so funny that Republicans have found this magical loophole to excuse just about any action by just saying it’s woke. The second anything is called woke, it instantly must be destroyed and there’s no disputing it because it is just simply too woke. Shit at this point I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Trump said that zelensky and Ukraine has gone woke and they will send military aid to Russia to stop them

    • Lemminary@lemmy.world
      2·
      16 days ago

      When quizzed they’ll ask you to name anything they’ve done wrong.

      Why is this a thing? I’ve seen that so many times. “Oh yeah, well name Trump’s indictments” as if they got a trump card.

      And, well… uhh there’s a summary right here. What do they expect? Secret knowledge? As if pretending nobody knows that they are gives them leverage? I don’t understand.

      • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
        4·
        16 days ago

        They’ll say a mix of “He’s clearly not guilty because nothing stuck! Teflon Don!” and “You shouldn’t go after politicians personal lives” and “Sucks for you he’s President now! You’re just a sore loser.”

        …that might make you mad, which they enjoy.

    • starlinguk@lemmy.world
      1·
      16 days ago

      Tell them research into women’s medical conditions (like endometrial cancer) is no longer allowed. I’d love to know how they’d spin that one as positive.

      • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
        3·
        16 days ago

        The problem is their spin isn’t designed to be positive or have mass appeal. It’s designed to create fervent followers who are desperate for something different and a sense they’re winning.

        In your example I believe the response for them would be something along the lines of “Good, women shouldn’t be getting special treatment anyways - END DEI !!!”

        • starlinguk@lemmy.world
          1·
          13 days ago

          Even though this means men are getting special treatment. Because research into prostrate cancer, for example, hasn’t been banned.

          • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
            1·
            13 days ago

            Yeah it’s crazy. What’s that line: To the privileged any attempt at equality is going to look like a loss of privilege.

            Something like that. I’m pretty sure they just want to harm come to groups they’re prejudiced against. Even more insulting is I’m pretty sure the Trump administration has a lot of drink and drug related parties, Trump spent his youth in nightclubs, Musk is addicted to ketamine and Grimes mentioned them tripping on acod together.

            So it’s debauchery at the top, austerity for everyone else. It’s a real let them eat cake they’re doing. Not serious or good people at all. Very little in the way of mprals or ethics, it’s all about power, privilege, politics, and personal gain.

  • foggy@lemmy.world
    8·
    16 days ago

    Like it’s their third rail of blow and their homie just picked up another ounce.

    • SolidShake@lemmy.worldOP
      31·
      17 days ago

      I just meant like no “Kamala Harris genocide derrererre” comments or someone changing the subject because libs

      • Tiefling IRL@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        4·
        17 days ago

        You’re not gonna get an answer here. Try asking on a random Instagram APNews thread. Most of the answers you’ll get are from bots, but Republicans are taught to parrot whatever they say, so it’s basically the same thing

  • 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
    5·
    17 days ago

    The person i was talking to about it said that he doesn’t want Project 2025 put in place, but also voted Trump and (as you said) said Trump “doesn’t have anything to do with that”.

    When I went to talk to them again after the election, he had either deleted his account or blocked me after I ask about Trump appointing many involved with Project 2025.

  • Nomecks@lemmy.ca
    1·
    17 days ago

    Do you think that Project 2025 isn’t what a bunch of conservatives want? It didn’t just come from one person. A bunch of people wanted to vote for this.

    • SolidShake@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      16 days ago

      ive known about it and who wrote it when it first showed up online. i know its a hardcore Christian conversion of the USA and i see it as the US turning into some sort of north korea

  • Letsdothisok@lemmy.world
    43·
    15 days ago

    I don’t know anything about it. What is it? I guess it’s got some good stuff in. But I wouldn’t endorse it. Whatever it is.