Summary

Trump is pushing for softer language on Russia’s war in Ukraine, straining G7 unity.

Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to “Russian aggression” and prefers calling it the “Ukraine conflict.”

This shift follows Trump’s peace talks with Putin that excluded Ukraine’s President Zelensky, whom Trump later called a “dictator.”

The change in rhetoric contrasts with Biden-era support for Ukraine and threatens a unified G7 stance.

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Do what they did to Russia, kick the US the fuck out and start calling it the G6. It was the G8 from 1997 to 2014, they can stand to lose another.

    The US is literally trying to kickstart an economic depression in the US. Why the fuck would you want these guys in economics talks when they clearly understand FUCK ALL about economics? A US depression will fuck up the rest of the world’s economics as well, and that’s clearly the long-term goal.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    American here: make it the G6. I am 100% serious. Trump is not your friend, and the rest of our fucking government is demonstrably inept in the extreme in terms of resisting this fascist takeover.

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      Amen. Also American. Cut America off. Do not stand for this stupidity. If American voters regain their minds in 2 or 4 years, we can all figure out how to move on. If not, America doesn’t deserve your grace and goodwill when it’s showing none. Ostracize us for the good of the world.

      Fucking clown.

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      Another American here. Yeah, we’re not Europe’s friend anymore. I hate it, but it’s true. Dear Leader has made it abundantly clear that unless you are somehow enriching him and/or his billionaire cabinet, he’s not interested in being your friend. You can hold up as many past agreements and treaties his predecessors signed and it won’t mean jack shit to him. Putin is his daddy because Putin loves oligarchs, and wants to be an oligarch sooooooo bad.

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      It’s going to end up that way whether EU does something now or not. He’ll just pick up his ball and leave like he’s done every time so far.

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      Yes, PLEASE! The rich fucks need to start feeling the consequences of this bullshit where it hurts. It’s the only domestic demographic that can offer enough pressure to motivate this administration to change their behavior.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Art class for the bourgeoisies, lab rats for the cat.
      Real estate moguls, Chump Towers,
      When the wind blows you can hear the windows go rat a tat rat a tat tat tat.

      Jimmy Hoffa in the Meadowlands, weighing down that union man.
      Grab his ankles, stevedores,
      Oh how those Jets do roar.

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    Kick us out, Trump is not in the G7 to do anything but fuck it up. Being a self interested stakeholder is normal but he’s not self interested. He is clearly under Putin’s influence.

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      Coming from a country with ranked voting and more than 2 parties, this looks so ridiculous. It’s like the USA electoral system is designed to make people bicker amongst themselves about who is the lesser evil, while oligarchs take control.

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        Veritasium, on yt ( not a guy I recommend frequently ) has a vid on election-systems.

        Approval-disapproval seems to be the sanest electing-system there is…

        All the ranked-choice-systems logically have problems, though no-where near as bad as 1st-past-the-post idiocy.

        Please, people, if you’re interested in the sanest voting-system possible, watch that video, & then organize to replace your system with the currently-best-option, which seems, from that vid, to be the approval/disapproval system.

        ( it makes the most-approved person win, and one can approve-of multiple different candidates, so the majority-of-voters get heard, no-matter-what, see? )

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      In maybe the most important race of this country’s history, Harris couldn’t bring herself to denounce genocide and war crimes like a decent human being and instead chose to support a corrupt, fascist foreign nation that more closely resembles Nazi Germany than another country today.

      Party loyalists tut-tut at the voters and learn exactly nothing, yet again.

      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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        Party loyalists tut-tut at the voters and learn exactly nothing, yet again.

        The non-voters voted in Trump who is trying to be more fascist and corrupt than the other country you’re alluding to.

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    I’d love to ask all of the MAGA heads to just question themselves this: Why go through all of this just to help Putin. Some fucked up shit must go on that Trump risks all of this just for Putin.

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    Blow it apart. America doesn’t belong with its former Allies.

    Its clear that America has no interest in being apart of the free world, they checked out.

    Now fuck off and go destroy yourselves in a frenzy over transgender bathroom doors and eggs. The rest of us still have lives to live and futures to protect.

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    The fuck is G7 anyway, but the face of global capitalism?

    Just doublechecking my premises, there’s this from Investopedia:

    The Group of Seven is an intergovernmental organization made up of the world’s largest developed economies: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada. Government leaders of these countries meet periodically to address international economic and monetary issues, with each member taking over the presidency on a rotating basis…

    Yeah, fuck 'em, but all is forgiven if G7 has the balls to expel America.

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    That’s some “are we the commies now” moment. Not really unexpected, but so much more blatent than I expected. It has all the subtlety and nuance of a wrecking ball covered with napalm hitting a fireworks warehouse.

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      Party-fascism & individual-faschism are both fundamentally the same, in their hatred-of-civil-rights, hatred-of-accountability, hatred-of-integrity, hatred-of-responsibility, etc…

      The CCP’s as fascist with China as Putin is with Russia: it’s just individual-vs-group fascism, no other difference, fundamentally…

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