It’s sorta like a camp, but concentrated on one type of person…
There should be a name for such a thing
I knew the concentration camps were coming, but just after ten days? Holy shit
Rather unfortunately, the mass deportations was one of the most popular parts of Trump’s platform. Everybody knows mass deportation comes with concentration camps. It’s not that his voters are unaware of it, they actively love it!
Honestly, I was expecting them in less time. Like 2-3 days in.
As an added note, they deported multiple children to Colombia the other day. Half the people they’ve arrested in specific areas have zero criminal records. Some are even US citizens. This is not for immigrants, this a Latino concentration camp.
I know two people first hand who have been here for over 30 years with no criminal records who are being detained. These are the people being sent to Guantanamo.
Some are even US citizens.
Some are indigenous.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/27/us/navajo-detained-ice-indigenous-immigration-trump/index.html
“It’s too kind to say it’s racism or discrimination. It’s disrespect for humanity.”
Source on citizens being rounded up?
I don’t know anything but isn’t Guantanamo Bay, like, kinda small?
That’s only an issue if you assume they’ll be treated with any humanity
At it’s peak it held about 800 prisoners, kinda impossibly small for the numbers discussed here.
Edit-- Well, trump did say “Most people don’t even know that we have 30,000 beds in Guantanamo”, I guess file me with most people. Must be incredible how they scaled up while simultaneously closing camps and losing facilities to disrepair, apparently.
Yes, it’s a camp where he plans to concentrate people.
I think that’s a bonus for Trump. Also, Cuba should reject our lease on the land.
To the best of my knowledge, although the U.S. makes “lease payments” on the land the prison sits on, they do not have the authorization of the Cuban government, which in turn has not cashed those checks.
Oh my God, what if they cashed them all at once and emptied out America’s checking account.
Call your senators
https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm?Class=1
Call your representative in the house
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
It’s “illegal” migrants now. But it will be us eventually! Do not let it get to that point. They did not win this election by a landslide, and they can only do as much damage as we let them!
This is a concentration camp, we’re past the point of calling.
So what are you going to do about it? Just sit there and let it happen?
It’s cute that you think senators have any power anymore. I’m guessing you think the next election won’t be Russia-style too.
It’s not eventually. The ‘problem’ with being overly aggressive on migration is how easy it is to ignore someone’s “documentation”. And then it is a quick move to a camp where they’ve determined that, for efficiency, you don’t have any right to representation. License? Fake. Passport? Fake.
Man, the place is gonna so quiet without all the US citizens, we’ll finally be able to talk about stuff that isn’t related to the US!
Mark my words- queer people will be next.
100%. If you look at the language they’re using to describe trans people in their EOs it’s clear as day where they’re heading and considering they’ve begun holding trans people’s passports indefinitely- they don’t want us escaping.
Someone in another thread is literally telling me queer people have nothing to fear because, according to them, nothing serious has happened yet.
And they and others give me shit for getting my gay daughter out of the country because I’m supposed to put Palestinians (who I work my ass off to help) ahead of my own child. Which, and I’m not sure they understand this, is neglect and generally frowned upon by child protective services.
There are definitely others that seem to participate in these discussions with the sole goal of upsetting people wearing a veneer of of leftist politics while lacking any seeming empathy. I tend to doubt their motives when they seem to only have compassion for some and not all
How did you get out of the country if you don’t mind me asking? I have no idea where I would start if I needed to leave. I’d prefer to go to a blue state if I could but of course that might not be an option. Also do you miss living in the US?
I am lucky because of this: https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-british-parent/born-before-1983
However, we are living on my savings until I get a job and my wife had to stay behind for now. My daughter can be here on a travel visa for six months and we will be out of money in three. I need a job that makes at least £29,000 a year to get a family visa for the two of them.
We’ve also only been here since the inauguration, so I am not all that homesick so far (I miss my wife and our dogs). Also I am just in awe of how nice and helpful people are here. I really didn’t realize the exact extent of American self-entitlement asshole culture until we got here and everyone has been friendly and helpful. Even the drunks.
That does sound nice. Hopefully you’re able to find some work and you’re able to get the rest of your family soon!!
I hope so, thanks!
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Some of us are able to keep more than one concern in our heads at a time.
So no, I’m not going to ignore the oppression of queer people just because you don’t want their existence brought up.
Also, you do know that some of those immigrants are queer, right? Did you assume they were all cishet?
My grandmother fought in the Dutch resistance, helped people who were Jewish escape, and was put in a camp. She died a few years ago. This is how that happened, too. And we’re all watching. Even with americas vaunted 2nd amendment, Russian-backed fascists just walked in and took over, and everyone is just watching them. No riots, no fighting back, just passive resistance.
I wish all of you the best of luck. I’m going to go hug my kids.
Your grandmother sounds like a fucking hero
She really was. The war changed her forever, though. On her death bed she disavowed her lifelong Roman Catholicism, saying “No God would allow what I have seen and lived.”
Before that she was an absolute badass and had many dalliances with a man of the clergy, causing his expulsion from the order.
Don’t blame the Russian for what the US is doing. A country that spent years of committing war crimes and establishing laws that invade privacy, haunting down journalist and humanitarian, is destined to use that power to abuse their own people sooner or later regardless of foreign intervention.
Don’t blame the Russian for what the US is doing
Я сделаю все, что захочу, товарищ.
MAGA has a hardon for cruelty. It’s about hurting people. They love the idea a rounding up non-white people, loading them into boxcars, and shipping them off to concentration camps. Everything that Trump has done so far is going make billionaires richer and regular Americans much poorer but as long as he’s hurting non-whites they will sit around giving each other rage handies and praising him.
Right wing politics in a nutshell
Exclusion & Sadism
but as long as he’s hurting non-whites they will sit around giving each other rage handies and praising him
What I find fascinating is the right-wing illegal immigration latinos who support Trump. Up until now they’ve been saying “He’s not going to deport us, he’s deporting the criminals”. I just read a news article about half of the people they’ve arrested so far did not have any criminal records.
White House press secretary goes live the other day and says “We’re going to deport all of them. They’re all criminals as far as I’m concerned”
I think people have this instinctual burning desire to feel part of an “in-group” and to hate against an “out-group”. It’s such a strong burning desire that people will jump through so many mental hoops even when they are in the “out-group”.
Note that being illegal is not a crime. It’s like when you get a parking ticket. It’s against the law but it isn’t a criminal violation. But of course the administration doesn’t care and neither does the army of rabid Americans cheering on the destruction of the country.
Doesn’t seem like misreporting. I found other sources reporting it too.
I sent a text to those I love in any capacity, even former coworkers who’ve probably deleted my number. Not a group text - one by one. I think it’d be prudent for all US readers to consider doing the same.
Knowing some of you are like me, in that you might not know how to word such a text to someone not expecting it from you, I offer you my copy/pasted text:
America has a concentration camp now. I won’t send you anything more…it’s kind of rude that I’m sending this one. https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/donald-trump-announces-plan-to-send-migrants-guantanamo-bay/
I would add something like, “But this is important and the people need to know about it.” at the end. It highlights the gravity of the situation and subtly encourages recipients to do the same.
Concentration camp/torture camp.
Lots of people fantasize about what they might do if they had the opportunity to act to stop what was happening in WWII Germany but here we are.
Its worse in some ways, the US is a far bigger country. While the 3rd reich destroyed their economy under the repayment plans of WW1 The US seems to be committing a similar kind of economic suicide with absolutely zero pressure to do so.
Wasn’t trump one of the Obama critics demanding him to close it?
But it’s OK because it’s Trump doing it not Biden.
Yes, but that’s because he apparently wanted it cleared out so that American citizens could be “accidentally” put there instead.
Bloody sickening.
Fucking hell. We were sooooooo close to finally releasing the poor souls caught up from 9/11 shit stuck here. I’m so fucking disgusted by the ruling class in this country.
for those of you who live in the US: there must surely be Republican voters being appalled by this too, right? Right?
Our people are horrible, vindictive morons.
And I don’t mean that from a place of emotional response to bad things, I am saying all of this dispassionately and analytically. The country has a large population of people who are objectively horrible, and vindication has become our primary focus for political action, and this is all because they’re generally morons.
I can’t even really exaggerate or overplay this. The average American’s intelligence is worse than abysmal. I used to lead a team of data-workers at a large company, we had nice, casual morning meetings and talked about the latest events for about a half hour before work. I ended up in the position of people bringing me news stories and headlines to “translate” for them. I had to explain what planets are, I had to explain how gravity works, I had to explain how democracy works, I had to explain history and math and facts and ratios and words like “industrious” or “ambivalent” every day, over and over. AND I’M NOT A SMART PERSON. I have always prided myself on being informed, but at some point I became the one-eyed king in the land of the blind and I hate it.
Everything here is going to get so, so much worse because I know how far down the barrel goes, and we haven’t even touched the bottom yet.
Yup.
Remove Donald Trump and Republicans from the equation and you still have a nation overflowing with unrealistically ignorant and hateful people.
That problem doesn’t go away with whoever’s in charge of our politics.
Our situation is 100% guaranteed to get much, much worse. And probably for the rest of our lives.
The part that crashed me into a very deep period of depression (probably the high fever from Covid didn’t help) was realizing that this is as good as it gets.
All of our current issues are the same issues we’ve been struggling with as a species for the last several thousand years, and likely a lot longer before record-keeping was a thing. As much as we can bend the forces of nature and manipulate the material world around us with flashy machines and complex systems, we’re still irrevocably and immutably just primate animals adapted to an ice-age world of predators, and even if we had the perfect social systems with limitless resources, we would find ways to break everything because we’re just not capable of more. We are animals who stole fire from the Gods but we do not have the minds of Gods, we have selfish, malicious, fearful and anxious animal brains that make us ignore facts and logic and reason and respond only to our reactions.
It won’t be us venturing into the universe. If we ever get off this speck of dust drifting around a sunbeam, it won’t be us, it will be some descendant made of silicon and logic-gates emulating our species at some level but synthetic and who knows if it will even be aware like us… who knows if we’re even aware. We are so good at tricking ourselves we actually believe we have choice and freedom and awareness of the world around us.
Try to find the place in which your thoughts originate and you will find a chaotic realm where your brain has already made all its choices and it just wants you to feel satisfied with the explanation you think you came up with. It’s deeply distressing. Don’t actually try it.
62% of the country supports deporting all illegals. Something that would be unbelievable a decade or two ago is now true for most Americans.
A strong majority of the country supports putting millions of people in camps and keeping them there for years. Of course GOP is more fervently against it- the same GOP that idolizes Reagan who gave blanket citizenship to millions of illegals.
100% of that 62% have no idea at all what is going to happen to many services they depend on. Doesn’t matter if it’s the price of food on the table going up because the farm workers disappeared or the person disappearing who has the necessary but unglamorous job of cleaning bedpans at the nursing home, they’re all very important jobs that people will miss immediately, and they can often be done by migrants or illegal workers.
Yes, for most of my life I thought we would never get rid of the illegals for precisely this reason. They are so integrated into our economy that eliminating them would cause a huge fallout. Almost 15 million people here. And they’re dramatically over-represented in specific industries.
So for example, you mentioned food. Agriculture, especially in the SW, runs on illegal labor. Construction all over the country runs on illegal labor. The people washing dishes at restaurants, the people cleaning up offices at night, the people working at landscaping companies, etc.
All of those industries are about to experience a severe supply shock of labor. This is going to mean increased prices for food, for landscaping, for construction, etc. Not only that, the services are going to be increasingly harder to staff. It’s really hard to find an American willing to relocate to rural areas to dig holes. It’s hard to find ones that are willing to pick fruit, etc.
Not to mention the effect that 15 million less consumers eating at local restaurants, buying products from Amazon, paying rent, will have.
And the worst part of it, the part that scares me, is that I’m certain Trump and his allies know this. They are entirely aware of the potential consequences of what they are doing. It does not take an economic savant to understand this and certainly Trump has some very smart advisors around him. So they are aware and they are doing it anyway.
What does that imply? That means they are willing to nuke our economy for this (throw in tariffs too while we’re at it). And when I say nuke I mean nuke- there’s no going back after this. We’re causing permanent long-term structural damage. Why would he be willing to do this?
I fear because there’s a lot worse on the horizon. Global war will overshadow the economic fallout from these decisions and will be pointed to as the cause of the near-future economic woes. Maybe I’m jumping to conclusions here, but this is not a good omen. It’s sort of like suicidal people giving away all their money before they off themselves. It’s a red flag.
I think we’re fucked with a capital F
Wouldn’t be surprised. Never waste a crisis. Nationalize things, martial law. Who knows what power grabs trump would make.
Who knows what power grabs trump would make.
I 100% do not expect our government to be recognizable, or functional, by the end of this. However long it lasts.
The thing is, I’d almost be willing to go through a hard period if it served as a lesson to all the ignorant Americans out there that would last at least a generation.
But it won’t.
They’ll be manipulated into believing the other side, and immigrants, are the cause of their suffering, despite they themselves giving total power to Republicans.
The Germans didn’t realize the error of their ways until the rest of the world killed the fuck out of them and invaded their country and their economy completely collapsed and their government was rebuilt with the guidance of their invaders. I’m assuming it’ll take at least that much to convince ignorant conservatives why their ideology isn’t compatible with the future.
Something that would be unbelievable a decade or two ago
The GOP’s propaganda really did a number on easily manipulated Americans. Turns out, the internet was a really, really good tool to spread hatred.
Nah. If there’s a percentage of conservatives who have come to realize the mistake they’ve made, it’s vanishingly small.
We’re talking about a group of people uniformly ignorant and hateful. You have to be to support the conservative ideology. Those are prerequisites.
Yes.
The way I understand it we have these places in the US call prisons and they are used to house criminals. I guess the only problem with that is in order to put people in them they have to be guilty of a crime.
