• thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Hilarious

    “Give us all your code for free who cares about copyright anyway”

    “NOOOO YOU CANT USE OUR PRODUCT TO GET FRE CODE 😡😡😡”

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      I suspect we’ll see these features opened up for US-allied actors against their foreign competitors.

      You can guarantee US auto companies are going to be free to reverse engineer software and manufacturing techniques of Chinese companies, for instance.

      But you’re not going to be allowed to use Grok or Meta to hack your Tesla or BMW, pull out the OS, clone it as freeware, and offer a substitute unconstrained by subscription fees and gated upgrades.

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    The restrictions are so they can gradually institute tiered access fees. This is how the industry becomes profitable.

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    This is another reason why I’ve reduced my dependency on AI considerably over the past few weeks, and I no longer personally pay for any AI tools/services at all.

    It’s insane to think someone would pay for something and after using it for a couple days they get told they can’t use it for certain things anymore.

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    I once asked Claude to check the app it vibecoded for security flaws and it didn’t want to do it.

    It literally told me to look up some basic security principles and do it myself.

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      Yeah their anti-hacking protections are over eager. Ask it to find bugs instead, or reasons we shouldnt deploy yet.

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    10 hours ago

    That’s a pretty significant part of the value and utility of AI…I bet stealing ppls ideas and getting to market first is still totally fine though, right?

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    They’re training their models on my art. It’s only fair I get to use their technology in return.

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    The best part of paying for a coding assistant is discovering halfway through your project that it has developed opinions about what your project is allowed to be. Imagine your IDE refusing to compile because it thinks your game feels a little too much like Tetris. At least a compiler doesn’t pretend it’s doing you a favor.

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      That’s what happens when you let others do your computation for you.

      Run the tool on your own hardware.

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      I think that’s what they wanted from the very beginning, to accelerate projects that are socially convenient for them, but not those that are not.

      There’s that issue with universal machines that some people don’t like that others are allowed to make universal decisions.

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      I got shut down by it two days ago. It suddenly told me that the project I was working on had tripped some kind of guard, that it couldn’t continue working with me on it, and it couldn’t tell me why. I just went back to my local Qwen model. I can’t see this doing great things for selling Claude subscriptions.

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      23 hours ago

      My coworker recently had an experience where he was trying to fix a security hole and his AI wouldn’t do it because it claimed that it was unsafe.

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    ai is gonna kill proprietary software! adobe and microsoft are done for now that we can reverse engineer their products with ai and make them open source!!!

    you naive fools… the copyright of corporations is sacrosanct, remember? not like the copyleft of independent artists or free software. that can be violated at will!

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      There are openweight models that are really capable at this point.

      So it might be that the American corporations try the most that this will not happen, but I think we are close to a point where this doesn’t matter anymore.

      AI cloning is just a thing that is a reality now…

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    Local LLMs are the way to go on AI, they can’t suddenly change the model up on you. And also, I guess Anthropic just wants their models to be more useless ahead of going public? Because I presume people that want to use AI, who don’t care where they send their data to, but don’t want to nagged about how they can’t do benign programming and analysis tasks, will just choose another model provider.

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      23 hours ago

      Uhm yeah good luck with running anything locally after hardware prices double again and again. Big tech needs to be stopped. There is no wiggling out of this just by being a smart customer.

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        Thing is, I already am…

        The price did grow several times in size, but even in the 4 to 5 digit price range, you or smaller companies can have a pretty competitive performing open source model as the frontier models from earlier this year and they are keeping pace.

        Obviously I’d like the speculation bubble to end and the DRAM and GPU cartels broken up, as it’s late-stage capitalism where the existing regulations being unenforced on big tech because the regulators are in on it that’s the problem, not so much the AI tech itself. (Don’t get me wrong, the tech has bad sides to it too like stealing artwork, data centre environmental impact and whatnot, but just speaking to the cause of the component greedflation).

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        Yes it’s disgustingly expensive. I spent a whole lot of money on an old used GPU and it felt bad, but it didn’t feel dirty like paying for Claude would. And then a couple of weeks later the used prices for this GPU had risen by about 15%.

        (I only use Claude at work when someone else is paying. And they’re about to make me redundant because Claude is cheaper than me.)

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    i know we’ve had our fun putting middle fingers up towards Adobe and the like, but these kinds of restrictions are needed to protect developers who aren’t insanely wealthy.

    from the article, which i’m sure you all read:

    And yet there are situations that merit some discussion, like the recent controversy about the Steam Next Fest being chock-full of AI slop copied from existing titles. That particular situation is getting particularly nasty, as game developers are reportedly being extorted under threat that their game demos will be cloned into complete games before they have a chance to finish and release the original.

    Adding insult to injury, this is seemingly being done to small studios whose main priority is usually “having food,” rather than big publishers looking to microtransaction everything into a new yacht for shareholders.

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      But this is restricting the user, not protecting the developers.

      Unscrupulous developers can rip off code using another model, including local ones that can make literally anything. Opt-in protections against doing something bad to someone else don’t work.

      It’s like selling cars with Tullock spikes.