The claim that people would like him if he was not a republican is one of the stupider pieces of cope they’ve come up with. They also like to use the stupid “TDS“ thing to claim that people just hate Trump arbitrarily, as if we can’t list 50 different horrible things he’s done and things about him that make him completely unfit for the office.
It’s not just cope. It’s that these people are so surrealistically stupid and lack all sense of curiosity that many legitimately don’t know a fucking thing about the guy they voted to be the most powerful figure on the planet. So they think we must be acting unreasonable to hate him so much.
I mean a common phrase among them leading up to 2016 was “he’ll run it like a business” because they were entirely unaware that the dipshit has driven every business venture he’s ever attempted into the ground except for real estate because a monkey could be successful at real estate if it inherits a bunch of its daddy’s money and real estate.
They don’t even know who he is.
I’ve said for a long time that the primary means of American education is advertising. He was advertised as a competent businessman on TV, and so that’s what a lot of Americans believe. The guy’s a walking advertisement. A flim-flam man.
He wins because he’s the best at lying in a country that prizes lying for money as the best skill set one can possess.
If anything, Biden Derangement Syndrome was absolutely a thing. MAGAts were so incredibly panicked about Biden when he was an entirely milquetoast, middle-of-the road Democrat. Do even they argue that Trump is just another Republican? I can’t see how anyone could.
They act that way any time a Democrat is president. They’re terrified the Dem will do a good job and leave a good legacy and positive reputation, so they pretty much flip out. They did it over Clinton - spread and amplified all sorts of rumors then investigated him for years until they finally found something to impeach him for. And then, Obama, obviously. Trump himself is still freaking the fuck out about Obama and it’s been a decade since he was in office.
Pennsylvania has a Democrat ogre, and we seem to have no problem saying, “fuck Fetterman”
Pennsylvania has a Democrat ogre
Two, really. Fetterman’s the one that keeps showing up on reactionary news media to talk shit. But Shapiro’s been taking his own turn as an avowed Zionist, a corporate sleaze, and a reactionary fearmonger whenever he’s had the opportunity.
His party affiliation has nothing to do with it.Trump has always been a POS human being full stop.
He’s the archetype of the 80s movie developer who wants to tear down the old skate rink or whatever.
For you. I see Dems constantly glazing Obama. Who, while not as bad as trump, was pretty fucking bad in a “it’s like Bush never left” kind of way. Affiliation is all that matters to a stunning number of people.
“it’s like Bush never left”
What’s that based on?
And saying he’s “not as bad as Trump” is a ludicrous understatement.
What’s that based on?
He ordered almost 600 drone strikes in 7 different countries, hitting weddings schools and hospitals and killing scores of civilians. He renewed the patriot act, escalated the domestic spying program, maintained the CIA black site torture program, and persecuted the whistleblowers that told us about them. That’s what “hope and change” looks like apparently. And the Dems went completely silent. “No blood for oil” turned into “awww he’s charasmatic and plays basketball <3”
I tend to not like felon rapist pedophiles regardless of their political affiliation.
And the Democrat party pretty regulartly ousts members with scandals that dwarf in comparison to Trump’s DAILY scandals.
Remember when Al Fra ken had to resign for giving too much tongue on a kiss and for screwing up his hover hands when posing for photos?
Remember when Howard Dean’s career was ended over making a weird screech in a victory speech?
I will never understand why some people will go online with their real name and photo and discuss any highly controversial topics, much less politics.
- It puts legitimacy behind their statements. You are no longer discussing with an internet no-name weirdo, the person you are writing with has a name and face.
- They weild authority in the field or bear respect assigned to them and are thus using it…or simply used to writing under their name due to that.
- They’re one of “I have nothing to hide” folks. And I don’t mean surveilence apologists - I mean folk who have such weirdly strong ego (without being egoists. At least most of the time) that their belief in who they are is unshakeable. They tend to rawdog the world.
Some combination of the three above is most common in my perspective.
You missed the top one
0 - they are old and or stupid and don’t think of the consequences of their actions
I tried soooo very hard to not tie age into that but…
Yeah. :<
A long time ago, when I was dating a woman who worked at Planned Parenthood, I ran afoul of a Scott Roeder supporter. I’m glad he never knew my name and what I looked like. I think my statements to him were legitimate and authoritative enough with out putting my loved ones in danger.
So, I am not an american and had to look the guy up. First of all, wtf. Second of all, wtf (but about your situation).
But at the end of the day, some people just don’t compute statements without face attached to them. :| Nonetheless, staying safe is a priority. Wtf.
Turns out people who are fine with Nazis don’t even allow for the possibility of principles existing.
A pedophile is a pedophile is a pedophile
Although I disagree with most of his politics, that’s not the reason I dislike him.
I would never support a pedophile even if they were able to achieve all my political ideals, to me that’s just a non-starter and I wish more people felt the same way. At this point the evidence and proven court cases are undeniable.
If he was running as a democrat would you have voted for a generic republican instead?
I would rather have George Bush back than more Trump. Not that I think he was any good at all.
he is despicable at the atomic level
I thought he was playing a character before he ran for president in 2016. Like I never watched The Apprentice, but I saw ads for it and I figured he was just playing an exaggerated asshole clown of a boss.
If Trump had run and won as a democrat in 2016, I probably would have intensely disliked him like I did Biden and HRC, but not hated him like I do now because the democratic party would have steered him in very different ways than the GOP has.
I largely now hate his voters and hope they suffer far more than I hate Trump. Nothing but antipathy for them.
I never watched The Apprentice, but I saw ads for it and I figured he was just playing an exaggerated asshole clown of a boss.
Believe it or not, I always took it as the opposite. The first time Trump wanted to run he was laughed out of the primary. He had a long history as a narcissistic con man to anyone in the northeast and there’s no way he’d be elected. The entire point of “The Apprentice” was to rebuild his image.
Maybe some people took it as playing an exaggerated asshole clown of a boss, but he was toned down from reality. His narcissism was toned down, he acted mostly morally, less of an asshole, he appeared to know something about business. They even played down his need to plaster his name in gold everywhere. His entire image was much more palatable than the previous two decades of headlines
Unfortunately it succeeded
Above all else, Donald Trump is a useful idiot. More powerful people have been using him for a lot longer than he’s been president.
He’ll go along with whatever, as long as he gets attention/money. He’s crass, so if he was a Democrat president, he’d still be an asshole, but he would have gone along with the liberal policies.
But it would never happen because Democrats are held to a higher standard and, as an idiot, the only way he can make himself stand out is through bigotry, which doesn’t fly for liberal voters. DEFINITELY flies for conservatives though.
I still think it’s possible that in 2016 they told him they were signing him up to play the President in a mockumentary. And that they still haven’t told him otherwise.
The creature is sub-human.
I don’t hate him. He’s a typical rich asshole who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
I’d have no problem with him if he spent his time playing golf and sailing yachts, as long as he paid his taxes and would be held accountable for any fraud he commits.
I hate the people who looked at this guy and said “he represents me, I want him in charge”. Or “I don’t understand what the words communist or fascist mean, I just want him to hurt those other people I don’t like”.
The people who put him in power are the problem. Without them he would just be another rich asshole saying bigoted shit on social media that we could just ignore. If they didn’t put him in the White House, there’s at least a chance that he’d be held accountable for his crimes.
His social media posts would be a case of “say whatever you want old man, you’re just making yourself look foolish.”. Instead he has a platform to make the entire country look foolish.
he shouldve just gone into pro wrestling instead of politics. would have been an all time manager
as long as he paid his taxes and would be held accountable for any fraud he commits.
When he was campaigning the first time he bragged that the irs did not have the ability to untangle his businesses enough to prove anything …… somehow people thought that was a good thing?
Don’t be a partisan hack. Politics isn’t rooting for a sport team, nor a rock concert. Don’t follow a leader because they are charismatic or likeable. Instead, support policies that reflect your values. Do not follow a person. If someone presents a policy that you support, or multiple policies that you support, embrace the policy for being great. Not the person. People are not superheroes.
Quick reminder that a significant chunk of the MAGA base that isn’t wildly misinformed love him for exactly the reasons you just mentioned. Republican vitriol loves that he spews hated. They delight in how his policies make the right people hurt.
Of course we would. But also, this joke of a person would’ve never won as a Democrat. He chose Republicans because he knew he’d have a better shot with them.
