Somebody got some splainin’ to do.
God damnit, Donut!
New achievement. You’ve been mentioned on a comment on Lemmy.
Industry experts who met with CT Coatings representatives doubted their technical skills. Julian Zanau from the Fraunhofer Research Institute recalled concerns following discussions with company officials.
“The first impression I got was that these people have no idea how a battery actually works. They were talking about no rare earth metals in their batteries and therefore no lithium, and to any chemist lithium has nothing to do with rare earth minerals.”
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The running theory I had seen was that they were licensing out someone else’s tech, and then claiming it as their own.
And now this article shows that to be more true than I had thought.
Meanwhile, there’s a company out of Taiwan doing this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQFVIs4leig
The guy cuts a cell in half with a pair of scissors, and as soon as the scissors are pulled away the little LED light comes back on.
These seem like ones tested by GreatScott 7 years ago: https://youtu.be/kJXRyWQgOY4
Same company, their newest cells are based on that tech, but with 7 years of advances, so 360Wh/kg. Which is about the same as most other top end Lithium-ion batteries, just solid-state rather than a liquid electrolyte.
sure, because everything on Youtube is real.
Wild. Did they really think they could just hype this up and release something like this and not get found out?
That’s how its done now thanks to assholes like this.
Reading the article, the investigation isn’t a case of independent labs getting hold of the battery and definitively disproving Donut’s claims. It’s battery experts and researchers looking at the data Donut has released and saying, “these claims are extraordinary and the evidence doesn’t yet convince us. Here’s what we think the battery actually is.” That’s a very reasonable scientific position, especially when you’re talking about 400 Wh/kg, 5-minute charging, and 100,000 cycles all at once.
But without independently tested samples, there are still a lot of unknowns and inferences involved. That’s not to say the skeptics are wrong, but it’s still arguably a case of skeptics being skeptical… reasonably so, but based on analysis of the available evidence rather than direct examination of the battery itself.
It’s worked for their channel so far.
Except they’ve misled investors, and that will get them into deep shit.
Because fuck consumers
Mislead consumers, FTC sleeps
Mislead investors…
Ftfy
Because fuck consumers
Mislead consumers, FTC sleeps
Mislead investors…
Also they just need to make a little donation and I’m sure they will be pardoned.
Investors are stupid enough if only everyone else didn’t tell them to be so dumb about this
No one thinks they’ll get caught.
I mean these days with all the hyped up scams all over social media including Lemmy… yeah?
Who knew donuts had holes?
I’m not surprised, but I am disappointed
I would be disappointed, but random news about sodium ion batteries keeps popping up and making me think it’s not so bad after all.
The there was that one article that was way too sensational to be anywhere near adoption, though it was pretty neat.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/06/260603023917.htm#google_vignette
Researchers have discovered how microscopic imperfections and atomic vibrations can be used to control a powerful quantum effect in an advanced material. The effect can turn alternating electrical signals from the environment directly into the kind of current electronic devices need, without traditional components. As temperature changes, the signal can even flip direction, giving scientists a new way to tune device performance. (though there were little to no details about how much power was/could be generated at all and seemed based way more in theory than practical application)
Dammit
Of course it is. If you had the technology to create a revolutionary battery, you wouldn’t waste time with the motorcycle business.
You actually might. Motorcycles are a perfect use case for an energy dense battery technology because current ones are simply too heavy with not enough range to make them viable.
Still, the inventor of cold fusion wouldn’t be also making refrigerators and TVs that will use the power.
I think he’s suggesting that inventing groundbreaking technology is the purview of brilliant scientific work. Applying that science is the purview of merely smart scientific work and is also a different industrial sector. this technology would be useful for motorcycles, sure, but it would also be useful for thousands or more other industries, many infinitely more lucrative, like aerospace, transportation, remote research, energy production/storage, computing, and on and on. Then there’s the near-infinite consumer applications.
It does seem weird that the same people with the ambition to improve on a major scientific technological barrier would do so for the dramatically less ambitious goal of advancing leisure motorsports.
Well, prior to this, Donut lost most of their host for the YT channel. I’m guessing they saw the writing on the wall and left.
