I’d never be able to be the one to pull the metaphorical or physical trigger when it comes to eating any animal. I love animals way too much. But damn some meats are just so good that it made it difficult to go fully vegetarian/vegan.
If it helps vegan diets have caused more animal deaths then cattle ranching.
Mono cropping increases due to the rise in demand for vegan alternatives have caused some of the largest wide scale death of insects and natural pollinators of any farming practices. Which in turn is killing wild life all over the place.
The primary crops to support a vegan diet have also driectly caused some of the largest loss of habits and death to wild life due to how demanding on the land and tempamental they are.
Vegan diets literally are murder.
It is impossible to avoid killing animals on mass scales to support any form of human population no matter what form of diet you have.
You either raise and kill them directly in controlled fashions that minimize the damage to the environment. Or you destroy the land and wild habitats both indirectly and driectly though mass mono cropping farms to support extremely inefficient alterative crops on enough of a scale to allow for wide spread consumption.
In a bit of a weird twist a pescatarian diet and a more normal vegetarian diet that still consumed animal by products. Cause less harm to animal life then any other.
Avoiding “murder” is impossible. Its just factually not how nature works. But minimization is very possible. And reducing your demand on monocrops like soy saves more animals then any other option you can make.
Do what I do and have someone else kill it.
Deer ARE beautiful creatures, but as a person who lives in the north I can absolutely confirm they are some of the dumbest fucking animals on the planet. They have exactly 1 reaction to any stimuli. Flight. Run like hell or ??die?? In my area they panic, run straight at headlights and cars screaming past.
Really THINK about that. A robin, a crow, or an ant has more thinking power in an pea-sized sized brain.
They’re not going to be splitting the atom any time soon. Don’t feel bad for them, just admire the one standing out in the field for its beauty and watch the F out on a country road.Venison is delicious. Sorry not sorry. If they weren’t hunted we’d be drowning in them.
Yeah, but… Why do we base a creature’s right to exist on their intelligence as perceived by us? We have no idea what headlights look like to them or how stressful it is being a keystone prey species. I certainly wouldn’t want to walk a mile in their shoes. Personally they’re a massive nuisance and garden pest, but I understand we brought out houses to them and not the other way around, so I don’t hold it against them.
They’re not going to be splitting the atom any time soon.
Oh, well actually that I do hold that against them. Nevermind.
and watch the F out on a country road.
This is the internet. You don’t have to censor yourself. You can say fuck here.
To your last sentence, if we hadn’t killed their predators we wouldn’t have that problem.
And venison salami is the best.
To your point, I think if their natural predators were still around we’d also have a lot fewer children around.
Venison salami IS delicious.
Don’t let your kids wander into the wilderness unattended and they won’t get preyed upon.
I’m here to represent the Wolf In Your Neighborhood Movement.
With enough funds raised, we can deliver a pack of wild ass wolves to a neighborhood of your choosing. It might be yours, it might be that of a neighboring community.
Our wolves are bred to the highest standards and are promised to be the most lean, fast, and aggressive wolves you can find anywhere. They’re real assholes.
They solve many problems such as:
People who jog in the road Irritating pets left outside/unsupervised Irritating children left outside/unsupervised Too many deer Humans that lack common sense Humans that cannot run fast Humans that are taking out their trash Porch pirates Caribbean Pirates Door to door solicitations Religious folks
If you’re willing to donate money to our cause, we can have a pack of wolves into the neighborhood of your choosing in under 30 days.
Deer eats my tomatoes. My tomatoes are now part of deer. I eat deer, thereby reclaiming my tomatoes. Honour restored.
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“Precious”
For people that don’t live with them or have to deal with their problems.
They wreck all your plantings. Whatever ornamental garden you might have apparently tastes better than any natural plants, they will destroy them. You want a garden to grow your own food? Need a 8 foot fence around it, and that probably still isn’t enough. They jump in and wreck everything. They shit parasites and drop ticks everywhere. Dogs are idiots and eat deer shit, picking up parasites. Trees or saplings are just perfect to rub heads or horns on, they destroy the bark and kill the plant…again apparently because your plants are better to wreck than anything out in the woods.
Yeah, I think deer are pretty cute, but fuck them too. Goddamn pests.
i read somewhere that there was an area with an overpopulation of deer and they nearly turned this beautiful forest into a completely barren desert. then wolves were introduced into the area and things got better
Any thing in excess is bad. Too many deer is bad, too many wolves is bad.
The same reason is why the rise in vegan alternative demand has increased the amount of monocrops such as soy. Which has actually caused more animal deaths though the knock on effects of those crops then cattle ranching causes.
Insect death, natural pollinators, and loss of habitat because of it are major problems with the recent massive surge in demand for vegan alternatives on mass scales.
You have to have balance. Too much of anything is bad, and not enough is also bad. Spread out the demand and keep natural resources in check by not over taxing them and not letting them run out of control.
Game of telephone with that one, worse with every telling. No deer turned anyplace into a desert. Just the reintroduction of wolves improved the overall health of an ecosystem. I believe it was Yellowstone.
i was definitely being hyperbolic my bad
I rather eat that peaceful non-domestic wild animal, than the industry pigs down in the supermarkets cooler. Then we can talk about how fucked up the meat industri is. Nothing wrong with spending time and connecting with the nature, both the hard parts and romantic parts. Makes you more human.
Pest animals such as deer are about the most ethical source of protein you can get in my country
I’m all for eating feral animals whenever possible
What country are you from? Theres a few deer near me in the UK, and ive never even considered they could be pests. They look excellent to me.
I cant eat them though, because I used to work in a meat factory and whenever we had venison to process it stank like fuck. Not sure if it does or if their supplier was awful quality, but its put me off forever.
I think that in Australia they’re considered an invasive species, at least some species, as they’re not native, breed fast, and devastate local ecosystems to the point they’re seen as pests.
In Europe they’re just part of the local fauna, and population numbers are well under control.
KiwiStrayan
Deer, rabbit, pig, goat, etc. are all pests and should be eradicated
So I may as well be eating them
In the UK their population needs to be controlled otherwise they will be a pest.
If left unchecked they will devastate tree populations.
If I recall correctly there was an estate who didn’t keep up with their deer culling and the army got called in with helicopters.
With a knife a fork off a plate in most cases.
I thought they were talking to the deer about eating the plants.
