I’m not saying that all Catholics think this, but most do. also sorry if the seahorse is hard to see X—X

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    Male seahorse get pregnant, but that doesn’t make them trans, they’re unambiguously male. This is a great example of why sex is defined by gamete size. If it weren’t, we couldn’t talk about males and females in any useful way across the animal kingdom.

    Clownfish would be a better example as they’re sequential hermaphrodites, but that doesn’t have any bearing on the human sex binary.

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        This is often a point of confusion, but human sex is binary. There’s edge cases that require clarification as to how they fit into the binary, but don’t disprove it.

        Human sexuality overall is complex and that’s why we differentiate gender from sex. The sex binary and gender spectrum complement each other though, and don’t clash.

        If you’re interested in learning more, here’s some background reading:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonochorism

        We fall into that category, where we have two body plans, each organized around producing either sperm or ova. Other species have more body plans, such as recognizably distinct males, females, and hermaphrodites:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trioecy

        Those species are a good contrast. Humans don’t have that variation, and so sex is binary in humans.

        There’s literature that explains this specifically in detail, though most of it doesn’t really explicitly talk about it, much like math papers don’t generally explain that integers can be added together.

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    My biggest issue with this whole thing is just writing “POV” at the start.

    Is this like the new generations communication habit? Some people can’t stop putting lol at the end of a message, some people cant stop saying “so here’s the thing” at the start of sentences. Are people just automatically writing POV at the start of memes now?

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    Seahorses aren’t a great example here imo. Their biology is just different from ours, the sex that fertilizes is the sex that carries the eggs to term - that doesn’t make them trans that is just how male and female work for seahorses, different than humans.

    A seahorse could make this meme calling cis women trans men because they carry the fetus…

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    I think being true to yourself is being closer to God than most Christians are.

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    also sorry if the seahorse is hard to see

    I am emotionally damaged and triggered from seeing this seahorse. It was a very hard thing for me to see.

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      Chill? They’re the more rigorous side for certain but chill feels like an exaggeration. That said, I’m ex catholic and have complicated feelings about them.

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        Catholic dogma may be relatively strict, I’m not sure, I haven’t extensively studied other sects of Christianity. But Catholic people are, in my experience, pretty chill. If anything they’re a much more “love the sinner, hate the sin” kind of bunch. It’s the evangelicals you gotta watch out for.

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          That’s generally true, except for the overwhelming violence sometimes. Also there’s the thing with fascists converting to catholicism in America.

          In a different form of Catholics having no fucking chill, is the aesthetics and relationship to suffering. Catholicism has a religious fetishization of suffering, which can produce really cool art from The Locked Tomb books (some of the major plot points include specifically catholic dogma) to the gilded human remains, as well as producing some weirder stuff like the play Sancta Susana, religious autoflagelation, and just so very many billable hours for therapists relating to guilt.

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      Growing up I discovered that there are two types of catholics. My church once had a temporary priest (our previous priest had just been sent on sabbatical and they didn’t have a replacement lined up) reassigned because he gave back to back anti-abortion and homophobic homilies in two weeks and we weren’t okay with that. The aforementioned previous priest routinely spoke in support of the queer community (usually just gay folks, but occasionally trans & beyond), talked about how we should be doing more to support the poor and underprivileged, and generally preacher a doctrine of love and tolerance.

      But there are also Catholic groups who preach against all of that, believing that the word of the pope/gospel supersedes interpretation of it. My old roommate once genuinely said that “being gay is fine, it’s just a sin to act on it”. He went to a different church only about an hour from mine, yet they were being preached the near opposite of what I was. And as other users have mentioned, that rift can grow depending on exactly where you go in the church.