The War on Christmas will continue until Christmas ends its illegal occupation of October.
The annexation of the seasonal aisles must be reversed for there to be true peace.
One of my coworkers is a militant atheist metalhead. He’s also fully maga cult. He’s been ranting about people saying ‘happy holidays’ all week. It’s a bizarre contradiction.
Most of the people I know who endorse this view would assent to it because it is consistent with how they feel about the world around them, not because it is a proposition they have seriously considered.
It just feels like everyone hates Christians, so if someone told them they were being persecuted, they would agree. In the same way, it just feels like nefarious forces are trying to “ban Christmas”, so when idiots on TV claim that is whats happening, they nod their heads along. When challenged they just retreat into ignorance, saying things like “well that’s what I’ve heard” or “I have no idea about that”, because ideas like “the war on Christmas” are not factual claims about the world, they are expressions of sentiments about what the world is like.
Persecution is baked right into the Christian religion. It’s also deeply rooted in the Jewish culture, to the point if you’re randomly walking down the street and trip over a duck, the duck was being anti-semitic.
It’s such a core part of identity for these people it’s kind of sickening. Before you come at me, I was raised in a Christian household and I have Jewish roots from my maternal side.
There’s no hate, but I’m actually disappointed and continually revolted by the endless sense of persecution that doesn’t really exist.
Certain christian groups push that narrative to make more of an in group and and out group. I attend a few different denominations of churches. You get a way to really see how different people view the world and their religion that way.
Some groups as a core belief that they must struggle to bring the word of God to everyone. Struggle is the operative word. If they don’t feel like they are behind ‘enemy lines’ they aren’t completing the holy mission. The best way to get that feeling is puff up any small difference into an uncross-able gulf.
There is so much rhetoric made on their communication channels to reinforce that view. They truly believe it because ‘it’s all around them’ It’s way cushier to run a mission trip from the Louisiana to California than it is to a truly under-served part of the world.
Yes, unfortunately. Or at least seems to.
This person was an eye-opener for me in terms of how deep political groupthink and unquestioning belief can go. He’s an intelligent person in a highly technical position that requires plenty of reasoning and thought, but if the right political commentator says something, it is absolute truth.
I know at least 5 and all of them believe Christians are a strongly persecuted minority group.
Bruh
100% yes, I know so many I can’t count
If you put them all in one place their collective stupid will create a black hole that will pull in pure shite from the sewer system.
I would love to know the reasoning why they think they are persecuted. I legitimately cannot fathom how, in America, Christianity is persecuted.
When I worked at Borders, back when it existed, I was allowed to say whatever exit phrase when finishing registers. I always said Happy Holidays starting end of November.
I had two people tell me no, it’s Merry Christmas. To which both times I responded "I’m Jewish. Happy Holidays. "
One of them just gathered her stuff and left without a word. The second got that puckered face like you ate a lemon and she fucking stormed out.
No complaints though so. I kept saying it. I didn’t care if people said Merry Christmas back to me.
Er, in short, I’d think those two people would have thought I was warring against Christmas.
I take the Christ out of Xmas when and wherever possible…
Which is funny, because even Xmas is a christ-centric spelling.
Fine - I’ll take the X out of Ecs-mas too then…
Just put the Saturn back in saturnalia!
Saturnalia sounds like some sort of foodborne illness or STD.
What about Sexmas instead?
Sounds like a pagan ritual. I’m in.
Anyone who watches conservative media in the US and UK. Within the last week when the President of the United States was berating the country during a special address about how he’s really doing a good job even though everyone’s worse off, one of his points was that saying Merry Christmas was banned under the previous president.
And yet, Obama put out videos of himself wishing people a merry Christmas every year
That was not shown on conservative media.
I think I’d just laugh if I heard that IRL, lol. You’re gonna tell me I’ve been listening to Mariah Carey everywhere I go nonstop for a month for no reason?!
yes, I believe there is a war on Christmas, because I hate Christmas and want it to die.
I’ll join you. There’s now two of us actively in a war against Christmas.
I don’t mind Yule though.
death to Christmas 😎
My stepdad, before he died. He simultaneously told me I was fighting a War On Christmas, while also telling I should volunteer to work instead of decorating and making a nice dinner, because “it’s not your holiday.”
I used to tell my sociology classes, we Americans are very confused people. None more so than Conservatives.
No but I limit who I interact with based on how normal they are about me being trans. The war on Christmas is part of the culture war bs. Also I’m pagan and don’t hide it
No.
Like “woke”, their wars on whatever are just stand-ins for everything they don’t like or might force them to exert brainpower that potentially endangers their mental gymnastics.
There is no war on Christmas as far as I know. So I’m going to guess it’s another dumb American thing?
I live in Denmark, and while the celebration is absolutely christianised, it’s sill called “Juletide” here. “Yule” or “Yule-tide” in English. Which refers to the original winter celebration before it got subjugated.
You have to remember, a lot of American Christians are descended from European Christians who were so extreme and weird that no one wanted them around, so they fled to the Americas to escape “persecution.” So, these Christian persecution complexes go way back. They’re a part of our history. Well, not all of ours, but some.
Yeah, it’s funny hearing the history of certain supermarket products that go like “these were original food items for cultists that fled to America”. Kellogs stands out as a big one.
it’s another dumb American thing?
Yes, it’s an annual tradition at this point.
I saw a message under a German post about how you can’t call it a “Weihnachtsmarkt” anymore. But I think that might have been a bot, because it’s pretty damn obvious that that’s bullshit.
Sam Seder seemed prwtty serious in his commentary years ago.
