• YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    The UFC is in bed with inhuman American right-wing imperialists but MMA is cool af, and perhaps the only sport my hyperactive and inattentive brain can watch without getting bored 3 mins in, lol.

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      27 days ago

      Yeah I’d agree with both parts of that haha. Unfortunately most organizations have had shitty ties in the past. Whether that be to corruption, organized crime or our current president.

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    27 days ago

    The fighters are great athletes and it can be fun to watch.

    But the fans are total knobs. I’d never go to a live event nor pay the insane prices for PPV

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      27 days ago

      Honestly MMA events are usually pretty chill when it comes to actual violence I believe its because the percentage of people who can actually fight in the audience is way higher than at regular sports.

      The dudebro assholes can never be 100% sure if that skinny dude is there because he likes to watch fights or because he trains with one of the competitors.

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      27 days ago

      I’ve seen lots of people say how bad the fans are but I’m not sure why. Other sports have riots and hooliganism. I personally have never experienced an MMA fan engage in negative group behavior like that.

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            27 days ago

            I do enjoy MMA, not actively watching or anything, but it’s one of the only sports that if it’s passing on the TV somewhere I actively pay attention and have watched some matches (I find especially interesting the first UFC championships when it still was Karate vs Sumo type of thing). I’ve also trained martial arts for a good chunk of my life, so I watch those matches for the technical side of the fight. All of that being said, I have to agree with him, a good chunk of people I know who actively watch MMA are douches, there are a few exceptions, one of my best friends watches every fight, and he’s only a douche to people who deserve it, but most of the people who watch the fights with him are very douchy.

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    28 days ago

    I understand the appeal, even though it doesn’t appeal to me. As a business it’s pure marketing genius. That dude took it from a shunned nothing to the entertainment money printing apparatus that it is now. Which makes me even less interested. I don’t hate popular things for being popular. But that tier of money printing makes everyone at or near the top an evil asshole.

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    27 days ago

    I like MMA in general.

    The UFC has been kind of scummy for a long time because of the way they have consistently underpaid the athletes while also cutting off their other sources of making money like their individual sponsorship deals.

    Its gotten much worse since the Fertitta brothers sold it. Now there’s no one to curb Dana Whites worst impulses, no one stopping him from indulging in his petty grievances with the athletes and playing favorites, I’ll include a couple of examples.

    He fired lots of fighters for hitting women, Jon Jones has has at least two incidents of domestic violence and is still in good standing with the UFC.

    Tom Aspinall seems like a good dude. Somehow he’s the bad guy in the eyes of the UFC for not continuing a fight after taking multiple eye pokes in a recent fight.

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    28 days ago

    I don’t see the appeal of watching two guys beat each other up. But if it keeps them from raping and pillaging then I guess knock yourselves out.

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      Honestly, more people should do martial arts. Fuck, I should go and do some martial arts. It is great to release steam by “beating up” a consenting partner.

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    I’m old enough to remember the days of Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock. I liked UFC back then. But then somewhere along the way, it changed. It changed into who was the most entertaining fighter instead of who was the most skilled. Sure, some of those early fights weren’t were chess matches, but that was the sport. The fighters today still have skill, don’t get me wrong. The fans have also changed…I mean booing two jiu jitsu fighters in a bold is just weird and disrespectful to me. I wonder how many fighters don’t make it in the UFC just because they’re “boring.”

    I don’t care for it now. I haven’t watched it in many years. I think Frank Mir was the last fighter I really followed. I’ve tried watching Pride, but it’s been hard for me to find.

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    27 days ago

    My friends and I used to watch the PPVs when we were actively doing Brazilian Jujutsu. But at some point it felt like it transitioned into WWE and less about watching a really good martial arts.

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    28 days ago

    other the barbaric nonsense, I have no input. this applies to all sports when watching them as ‘entertainment’

    participating in sports is a different thing altogether.

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      I played football with my friends growing up so I used to appreciate watching it a bit. Football used to be daring, sometimes amazing, now it’s like plays are decided by algorithm, boring. But ultimately, I’m just not interested in seeing other men fight.

      I love kayaking, learn some things watching others do it on video, no care to see kayak competitions.

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        28 days ago

        watching sports and cheering for ‘sides’ is barbaric and not worth the time. the countless riots over winning, or losing also backs up my claims

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          Oh I see, I disagree heavily but definitely understand why you feel that way and respect it. MMA has never caused a riot. In regards to sides, its not like that in MMA. Individual people get rooted for. By example, I loved to cheer for Dustin Porier because he has a great personality, does a fuck load of charity and was always in great fights. On the other hand I like cheering against guys like Jon Jones because hes a genuinely bad person, seeing him get beat down is great, unfortunately that happens rarely.

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    I like the concept of MMA as a sport. Creating a loose ruleset and encouraging people of different backgrounds to experiment is a great way to see what works and what doesn’t.

    That said, I personally don’t like full-contact striking. Not in boxing, not in MMA, not in other sports. If people consent to do that, sure, have fun. But I don’t see the appeal of getting TBI to prove a point, and I don’t enjoy watching it.

    There are, IMHO, ways to compete in a “close enough” fashion while reducing the risks, whether by agreeing on going light to the head and have the ruleset emphasise points for effective hits or by using equipment.

    Regarding the UFC… Big US evil media company just like all the others, I guess. I wouldn’t give them my money, even before all the political mess.