Surely these cuts mean our taxes will drop dramatically… right…

Oh yeah big time. I see it primarily in discussions about religion. Progressive people like to act as though any Christian has the same mentality as the Westboro Baptist church cult. Its a real bummer.

I struggle with the idea that being part of a religion means you support the negatives without acknowledging the positives. For example, the catholic church has a horrible track record with child abuse. Sentiments I hear accuse catholics of loving and supporting pedophiles. But the catholic church also funds thousands of hospitals, clinics, food banks, orphanages and schools. They were also one of the few institutions setting up and running programs for needy people historically. Can someone hate aspects of the institution while supporting others and still be considered moral? Surely if you were to poll catholics, almost none would condone acts of child abuse. But, they would all support helping the needy. Is it reasonable to hold all members accountable for the horrible acts of a few? Maybe, maybe not, I really don’t know.

Yeah that’s pretty much what I’ve gathered from this thread and conversations I’ve had. Both sides see themselves as morally and intellectually superior. I don’t see much willing cohesion being possible on the extreme sides of either. Luckily the majority of people seem to fall in the middle.

Yeah, second autopsy wasn’t released and the statement he made is completely false as of current information available.

Claims gaslighting while blatantly spreading a false narrative that the family has even stated is false.

That’s your response to me saying the facts you tried to present have been proven untrue? You’re the one gaslighting and spreading unproven information because you desperately want it to help the narrative you’ve created for the world.

Yeah, I pointed out the currently available evidence. Also disproved the legitimacy of a parallel situation. The misinformation got significantly more upvotes as the factual information and article I linked. People want this to be a hate crime and no amount of proof will dissuade them from believing it is.

Solid

That’s honest

Wrote the question based on some comments I’d seen on lemmy, reddit and conversations with friends. If you don’t think many people believe hating someone based on their religion is morally correct, you should read some of the comments in this thread. It started with a long conversation with a close friend of mine. He considers himself an atheist and views religion and religious people as the root of most major evils in the world. I think its a reasonable premise based on my lived experience. Just curious what other people think.

In the US or in general? Both is reasonable as well I guess.

The first story you linked, false, one of the several outlits that stated blunt force trauma was involved. You’re actively assisting the the spreading of misinformation because you want a specific outcome. The second autopsy information hasn’t been released yet. Its almost like the people want this to be a hate crime because it would be easier to cope with. Do you have any idea how rarely the family or friends see suicide coming? It’s almost never an open and shut case where the family just accepts it. You know why? Because it’s fucking horrifically difficult to rationalize that someone you love so much would just give up and disapear.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/10/08/trey-reed-blunt-force-trauma/

It seems like you’d be a very tough person to spend time with.

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I appreciate that. Part of why this particular case is so magnetic for me. It feels like people want to create a divisive conspiracy supported by no evidence. That way they can get some white people bad points. Rather than admit we have a massive mental health crisis happening. Everyone should be trying to help one another, not use a tragedy to divide eachother further.

It’s the second most common form of suicide in the US. Unfortunately, lost an uncle and cousin to it.

Do people want this to have been a hate crime?

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Based on that answer, dont ever get a gun, friend.