You can never trust the cops when they rule these cases a suicide so quickly. There is well known bias amongst law enforcement to sweep problematic crimes under the rug, which is why a larger percentage of murders aren’t solved in America compared to other nations.
Lynchings especially are crimes of terrorism, where so long as the black community knows they’re being targeted, there never needs to be any serious acknowledgement of it being a lynching. In fact, it’s better terrorism when the law covers for them. The message is clear: we can murder you and nothing will be done about it. Those in the forces burn crosses.
I totally agree. Women know this about SA as well. The societal gaslighting is part of the oppression. Whatever happens with this case we need to pay attention to these things and at least question them.
Claims gaslighting while blatantly spreading a false narrative that the family has even stated is false.
Non nazi propaganda title: Black man lynched and hung by white nazis in christian fascist racial attack against minorites.
Fuck these reporters, and the religions that enable to do shit like this with their shitty hate books.
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It seems like you’d be a very tough person to spend time with.
Why?
Let me guess, “no foul play is suspected” 🙄
How common are hanging suicides for all men? Do we just no hear about other people doing it cuz it’s not sus?
It’s the second most common form of suicide in the US. Unfortunately, lost an uncle and cousin to it.
Thanks. Sorry for the family you lost.
I appreciate that. Part of why this particular case is so magnetic for me. It feels like people want to create a divisive conspiracy supported by no evidence. That way they can get some white people bad points. Rather than admit we have a massive mental health crisis happening. Everyone should be trying to help one another, not use a tragedy to divide eachother further.
I work in addiction recovery and listen to people share about suicidal ideation, and lost friends/family to suicide. A lot of people that contemplate life take into consideration the world they are leaving behind. Not wanting to burden others, further hurting or shaming family, or honestly leaving a mess - leads people to hanging.
I wonder if a black person would think that hanging themselves would lead to some confusion.
I’m not saying trust them but
According to APD, Givan also had a bracelet on his wrist from a hospital nearby that revealed he had been admitted the day before. According to officers, they also found a notebook that belonged to him at the scene. "I did watch a little bit of the OBRD (body cam), and I think just reading some of the things that were in his journal — the notebook that was there, led them in that direction.
Seems plausible enough with a follow up unfortunately.
Yeah, I pointed out the currently available evidence. Also disproved the legitimacy of a parallel situation. The misinformation got significantly more upvotes as the factual information and article I linked. People want this to be a hate crime and no amount of proof will dissuade them from believing it is.
Do people want this to have been a hate crime?
A couple weeks ago Mississippi authorities said Trey Reed hung himself on his college campus. Colin Kaepernick then stepped in to pay for an independent autopsy for the family who denied their son was suicidal. The results were that blunt force trauma was found and that it was not suicide. The man in New Mexico is having similar calls for independent investigations from friends and family.
Oh damn, I remember the story but hadn’t seen the follow up.
Yeah, second autopsy wasn’t released and the statement he made is completely false as of current information available.
The first story you linked, false, one of the several outlits that stated blunt force trauma was involved. You’re actively assisting the the spreading of misinformation because you want a specific outcome. The second autopsy information hasn’t been released yet. Its almost like the people want this to be a hate crime because it would be easier to cope with. Do you have any idea how rarely the family or friends see suicide coming? It’s almost never an open and shut case where the family just accepts it. You know why? Because it’s fucking horrifically difficult to rationalize that someone you love so much would just give up and disapear.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/10/08/trey-reed-blunt-force-trauma/
I’m sure that if we ignore all the racism and gaslighting it will just go away. I think with all the attacks on the media and history it’s time to at least question these things. Historically a lot of terror has been committed on our black brothers and sisters while they are gaslit and ignored.
That’s your response to me saying the facts you tried to present have been proven untrue? You’re the one gaslighting and spreading unproven information because you desperately want it to help the narrative you’ve created for the world.