misdemeanor? so like, murder is illegal, murdering multiple with a truck is kind of legal
Meanwhile a couple of parents in North Carolina are facing manslaughter charges after they let their kids walk to the grocery store while they guided them over the phone and one of them got hit and killed by a car.
And the driver has not been charged.
wtf
So, if you actually read the article, it says he claimed that the steering wheel locked up on him, but the NTSB stated that he suffered from severe fatigue. Maricopa county prosecutors said there wasn’t enough evidence to press any felonious charges.
So, at best, this would be a case of manslaughter (which is a felony), but there’s no conclusivity on whether it was with malicious intent or premeditated.
So no, he’s not a murderer. He negligently fell asleep at the wheel.
If u drive while being impaired (by whatever) ur a piece of shit and if u kill anyone doing that (except like suffering a heart attack or something not foreseeable) ur a murderer in my mind.
Fortunately, the law doesn’t operate on what’s in your mind.
Murder implies premeditation. The prosecutor and judge didn’t see evidence of premeditation.
A lot of people use the word “murder” in a colloquial sense and not a strictly legal one. Further some jurisdictions have degrees of murder where other jurisdictions would use manslaughter. I’m assuming the person you responded to meant the lesser charges.
Yeah im not gonna use a legal definition colloquially cuz im not a weirdo. And ur obviously right that even in a colloquial sense there is a difference between premeditated murder and non-premeditated murder. Im not arguing that the guy is jack the ripper.
congratulations
the law doesn’t operate on what’s in your mind.
are you sure? intent is an element of many crimes.
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Failing to maintain a vehicle is an impairment. Also “my steering wheel locked up” is not a reason to not hit the brakes.
As someone who is a master of operating under what should be severe impairment I agree, being awake for 48 just leaves me vaguely slow when I talk. Also folks need to know their fucking limits, I refused to drive while I had food poisoning because I couldn’t think and also I didn’t want to shit myself in my car.
There is no law and order in the US. If you want to diddle kids, just operate a Joint commission accredited troubled teen facility. There are literally zero requirements, and you can sue anyone who questions you into poverty!
You actually get rewarded for running over cyclists, one more and it would all have canceled out
He should never get his license back. What the hell. Only 6 months.
Unfortunately, traveling by car is seen as the default. Hence using something else than a car to travel is seen as taking unnecessary risks, which is why we see a lot of victim blaming.
Speed limit inside of cities should be like 30km/h, 20km/h during the times of day when school typically starts and ends, all day near a school. Fines for speeding should be 3 dayfines for each kilometer you’re over the limit, with five percent of your net worth being added to your annual income for the calculation. 5 dayfines if you speed in a school zone. And if somebody throws themselves in front of your car, and they die, you should lose your license for 6 months. (Though in this case, all financial damages emerging from your license suspension should be paid by the estate of the deceased). In case of vehicular manslaughter that doesn’t involve somebody deliberately hitting your car, the license should be suspended permanently.
Sorry for the rant.
Remember people, if you wanna kill someone, make sure you’re in a car! If you’re lucky you might not even get a jail sentence!
Remember people, if you wanna kill someone, make sure you’re a rich white person in a car!
Also doesn’t hurt if the people you plow over are young, minorities, women, or - best of all - progressive activists.
Insane. My friend is serving 6 months because he fought back against his violent abusive dad one time. This guy gets 6-12 months after killing 2 and injuring 11? Wtf is this system?
Afluenza, you know. This guy probably has rich and powerful daddy and mommy.
It’s ok, none of the people killed or hurt were billionaires, so like… they guy barely broke any real laws worth worrying about.
This is good. It gives the grieving families a year to plan how to get the bastard once he’s out of jail.
Prosecutor needs to be tried for treason. At the very least there needs to be a permanent license suspension.
…treason?
You plow a vehicle into an event and kill people - intent or no - you’re definitely an enemy of that society.
I don’t think that’s how it works though.
Prosecutors have court fabricated immunity so its moot either way.
I’d like to know whether that means he can drive for the 2nd hald of his prison term.
for international context here: this is (one of) the hottest major city in the
countryworld; we have year round bike weather. This happens all the time unfortunately.The hottest city != Bike weather?
They meant to say “bike melting weather”
People who live here are used to the heat. I ride my bike in >40° weather all the time. People who aren’t used to the heat yet will start to ride right before sunrise when it’s 27-30°. To give you another frame of reference: I set my HVAC to 25.5° year round and turn it down to 24.5° when I’m “overheated” (room temp <24° is unbearably cold to me). We’re just built different here.
I speak for all of Canada when I say that you are fucking nuts.
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Yeeehaw
After those six months, we need you back out on those streets running over cyclists and subsidizing our dying domestic auto industry, you hear me?!
- Judge in this case after doing his sentencing
/s
It’s really cool how judges would say that all human lives are equal but also closely match them to their net worth…
I imagine he’ll face the consequences for the rest of his life, regardless of how the “justice” system handles it. Honestly, I’d be surprised if he lived 10 years before something happened to him. The victims had families.
BANANA
Interesting hypothesis. I’d love to peruse an executive summary of your research methodologies.
B
It’s short for bananas banana republic. As in the law is fucked up, or it isn’t followed. USA has become a banana republic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republicI just though I’d shorthand it, because there are so many news stories that show this, that it’s exhausting to respond to them individually.
How does that apply here?
Arizona is part of USA, and 1 year for killing 2 people due to gross irresponsibility.
The laws are not designed for justice, but to benefit the rich.Just because it doesn’t sate your lust for vengeance?
How long until ICE sees his name and deports him because “criminal”
