I always wonder if Russia would collapse, if suddenly a lot of the disinfo & hate on various online media would become noticeably quieter.
That partially already happened at the start of the war. There was a massive “brain drain” among the higher educated part of society, which did include a bunch of hackers. Why live inside russia these days when you can move elsewhere and get paid better?
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Yeah that is so fucking sick.
Signal FTW and long live Snowden!
As I recall there was a period a couple years back where Russia was cut off from the greater internet and a lot of interesting things got quieter, including r/conservative on Reddit.
there’s also iran, I wouldn’t be surprised if north korea and china also have bot farms, and then even in america evangelical christians fund shady hate operations around the world too
its well known china has an enormous online presence set around spreading misinformation, and of course the worlds best ‘whataboutisms’ you are ever likely to see
I think it would absolutely make a difference.
We actually did see this at the start of the war. When Russia was dealing with the new sanction and shifting focus from the west to Ukraine.
They seem to think it’s important based on how much they invest into it
Russia has the last laugh since they confiscated 3 copies of The Sims 3.
I still can’t believe that happened
Context? Lol
recollecting from memory: Early in the war, russian news reported they busted a nazi hideout in the occupied donbass region. The report was accompanied by a picture of swastika flags, nazi tshirts, 3 copies of the “Sims 3” game and a document signed with “Illegible”. All layed out neatly on a bed.
Apparently, the instructions for staging the photo was to include Nazi paraphenalia, 3 SIM Cards and a document with an illegible signature. And someone didn’t read the instructions properly (or took them too literal), and instead used 3 copies of Sims 3, as well as a document signed with the name “illegible”
that is one of the more hilarious things ive heard out of this whole conflict of russia continually embarressing itself
https://www.vice.com/en/article/88gpmg/russia-sims-3
It almost makes less sense WITH context.
Before anyone asks, yes, russia really is that dumb.
“We’re lucky they’re so stupid”
They wouldn’t have started this war if they weren’t this stupid.
That was beautiful.
Daily comment to say fuck Russia
Edit: Damn look at all the bigots
Is it sarcasm?
It kinda is.
How do dictators come to power? Spoiler: it’s not by winning elections. (well okay that’s not entirely true since Trump won)
As you imply, it’s possible for someone to come into power by winning elections, and then become a dictator by breaking the democratic process, ending free & fair elections, criminalizing opposition parties, destroying independent judiciary so that dictatorial actions cannot be reviewed in court, etc.
There are plenty of examples of this in today’s international fascist movement.
Musk just lost 150K sycophants.
Hopefully the conservative channels get quite a bit.
How does this have negative three comments??
As the saying goes, there are two fundamentally difficult things about programming:
- cache coherence
- coming up with good names for things
- off-by-one errors
Negative comment counts are likely caused by the latter.
Looks like a bug! For me, from lemmy.world’s web interface, it is -1 as of this posting.
If a user deletes a comment it subtracts from the count, seems to go to negative numbers sometimes, maybe when it’s removed it subtracts two on certain circumstances
why are these are being set up in Ukraine and not Russia? What do they gain from having them within reach of the Ukrainian police?
it’s so these accounts can believably pose as ukrainian
Couldn’t they set up a VPN / Proxy in Ukraine and have the actual bot farm run from within Russia.
If they did that it would be pretty easy to spot for anyone looking, all the bot accounts would be connecting through the same IP address(es). For it to be believable, you would need thousands of Ukrainian IP addresses, owned by Ukrainian internet providers. What Russia did is an effective way to achieve this. With thousands of sim cards on multiple Ukrainian mobile networks, the traffic is very hard to distinguish from real Ukrainian internet traffic. Of course the downside is that all the devices with those sim cards have to be in Ukraine for it to work. It’s also possible that at least some of these devices were essentially just acting as VPNs for more devices in Russia.
That’s a million in SIM cards. And then people still go and mock anyone who dares suggest that troll factories are present in discussions.
What do they do with these SIM cards?
From what I gather here in the comments, they use the sim cards to make the bots look like they’re actually posting from where the farm is located, since using a VPN would not be sufficient to hide their tracks.
I’d be interested in seeing exactly what messages this farm was putting out. Lists of accounts and what networks they primarily operated on would also be very interesting.
I saw on yahoo about pringles being in Belarus a comment about how Pringles was killing “Nazzis” in Ukraine. Makes we wonder if that shit was from Russia
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Everyone is well aware of the Azov brigade. They are at most, 2200 soldiers, and do not represent Ukraine on the whole.
and do not represent Ukraine on the whole.
74% of Ukrainians view the leader of the WW2 Ukrainian fascists (the OUN) Stepan Bandera favourably. And 81% view the OUN positively.
• The support for the recognition of the OUN-UPA as the participants of the struggle for the national independence of Ukraine has significantly increased: 81% support it, and only 10% are against. This support has increased 4 times since 2010, and doubled since 2015.
• Bohdan Khmelnytsky and Mykhailo Hrushevsky are Ukrainian historical figures who are unequivocally positively perceived by Ukrainian society (by more than 90% of the respondents). Over the recent years, there has been a positive trend in the attitude towards Ukrainian historical figures, around which heated debates were going on in Ukrainian society decades ago. In particular, the attitudes that gradually improved are the ones towards Ivan Mazepa (44% in 2012 and 76% in 2022), Simon Petliura (26% in 2012 and 49% in 2022) and Stepan Bandera (22% in 2012 and 74% in 2022). It is important that the positive attitude towards the ideologue of Ukrainian nationalism prevails today in the south-eastern regions of Ukraine, and among those who speak only Russian in everyday life.
Source: One of the largest Ukrainian polling institutes
The OUN carried out pogroms, mass executions of jews and were regarded by even the nazi SS as disgustingly brutal.
https://www.dw.com/en/stepan-bandera-ukrainian-hero-or-nazi-collaborator/a-61842720
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They are at most, 2200 soldiers
It’s weird how they’re on every front of ukraine, in front of the cameras everywhere, and also in western ukraine simultaneously. Amazing how so few people can be everywhere at once and always in front of the cameras instead of literally anyone that isn’t a nazi.
Who did they invade?
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LOL, I mean you have Stalin in your profile picture.
The following countries were invaded by Nazis:
Austria Belgium Czechoslovakia (modern Czech Republic and Slovakia) Denmark Estonia France Greece Guernsey (U.K. Channel Island) Hungary Italy Jersey (U.K. Channel Island) Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Monaco Netherlands Norway Poland Russia (partial occupation) San Marino Ukraine Yugoslavia (modern Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Serbia)Okay, which ones of them were members of the Azov Battallion? Because this is about them.
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Pretty sure they aren’t, or Azov would be the ones doing the invading. You seem to not care that a sovereign country was invaded by a larger force.
You’re discussing with someone that is part of the botnet mentioned in the article. Just look at their history. Just report as off-topic and move on. No point talking to propaganda mouthpiece.
Dude is a fucking moron. The more we all report his comments and block him, the better Lemmy will be.
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Do you think Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was justified because of Azov? Does that justify all the civilians being killed? Are they all complicit? Is the only way to solve the problem annexing the country to Russia? Is the fact that Russia also has Neo Nazis in their ranks not relevant?
You forgot to include your mind because it’s obviously completely captured by Russian nazi propaganda.
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argumentum ad temperantiam of course
