During a Tuesday hearing at the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, the DOJ urged a three-judge panel to issue an emergency stay of a lower court order and allow the Trump administration’s deployment of the California National Guard to continue in Los Angeles — going so far as to argue a president’s federalization of militia can’t be second-guessed by the courts, even if the chief executive mobilized forces from all 50 states and Washington, D.C., simultaneously.

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    The DOJ attorney emphasized that “sustained mob violence” in response to ICE raids is “no ordinary civil unrest,” claimed that it is ongoing, and asserted that such violence is “expressly aimed at preventing federal officers from enforcing federal law,” supporting Trump’s federalization of the Golden State’s National Guard.

    That’s just a lie, isn’t it?

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      Well, it’s mostly true. I mean this isn’t normal civil unrest. This is the people being fed up with a government trying to use fear as a weapon against it’s own people. And the mob violence isn’t generally preventing federal officers from doing what they want, it is in response to it. There is some mob shouting preventing some federal officers ftom doing what they want.

      But issue at hand is that the law is very vague about the quantity needed to trigger the allowance of using the national guard. By just reading it, ICE could send a single agent to arrest 5 people in a facility that has 500. If the people stop the arrests, then it meets the written requirements. It ludicrous though to interpret it that way of course. But since it was written so poorly, we are at the mercy of the courts.

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      Fuck these feckless attorneys who are willing to do this shit.

      They should never be able to work again after this. At best. Many belong in prison.

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    So much to unpack there…

    So the bestest president evah now caused a rebellion? Did that ever happen before to any president? Oh yeah, under trump 1 there was January the 6th, instigated and orchestrated by king Cheeto

    And now there is another rebellion?

    I mean, it’s demonstrations but seeing that distinction is hard for smooth brain idiots

    Then telling judges that they can’t say no because else they can’t stop a rebellion? I mean, you STARTED it, if you want to stop it’s really easy: STOP BREAKING THE LAW!

    And stop telling judges they can’t do their job

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      The keyword is rebellion…

      But it is not really about current protests … it is to have all lights on green when there actually IS a rebellion cooking so the response can be swift and far beyond proportions.

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    That’s fascism, folks.

    Arm yourselves.

    Also, maybe don’t do something dumb like vote 3rd party or abstain from voting next time around. Y’all were warned. Now it’s happening.

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      What about all the votes that were lost, removed, not counted? The way the elections, gerrymandering and more, Its all rigged.

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      Look, if the only plan to stop the fascist uprising that has been building for decades was “win every election forever”, then there was no fucking plan. This shit was going to happen at some point.

      Stop scolding people for not falling in line with you and start figuring out what to do next.

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        Nah dawg. I’m going to scold dumbfucks that checked out or voted for a candidate that could not, under any circumstances, win, allowing a felon rapist traitor and his treasonous party to bring fascism to our nation.

        Because they deserve to be spoken down to. Because they’re idiots. Because they chose to place their perceived moral superiority over the wellbeing of our country.

        They were warned. Now it’s happening. Defending them is not exactly an intelligent thing to do.

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          What’s really unintelligent is rehashing grudges over and over again and further alienating exactly the people whose help you need to fix this mess. But what do I know?

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    And Harvey Weinstein’s lawyers say he’s totally innocent too…

    trumps been using the DOJ as his own lawyers, they’re always gonna say he can do whatever he wants. Literally, they said nothing about this can be weighed on by any court:

    “Our view is that this statute commits the decision whether to call up the forces to the president’s unreviewable discretion,” Shumate answered. “So no, there’s no role for the court to play in reviewing that decision.”

    It two trump judges and one from Biden. And while the trump judges clearly disagree, they’re gonna kick it to the SC.

    Which is what was always going to happen here. Newsom isn’t dumb enough to think a lawsuit would fix anything, he’s just grandstanding because he wants to run for president.

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      It two trump judges and one from Biden. And while the trump judges clearly disagree, they’re gonna kick it to the SC.

      SCOTUS is an appeals court, they rule on lower court findings.

      A lower court can’t “kick it to the SC”. They have to make a ruling.