Kathy Berden, 70, of Snover William (Hank) Choate, 72, of Cement City Amy Facchinello, 55, of Grand Blanc Clifford Frost, 75, of Warren Stanley Grot, 71, of Shelby Township John Haggard, 82, of Charlevoix Mary-Ann Henry, 65, of Brighton Timothy King, 56, of Ypsilanti Michele Lundgren, 73, of Detroit Meshawn Maddock, 55, of Milford James Renner, 76, of Lansing Mayra Rodriguez, 64, of Grosse Pointe Farms Rose Rook, 81, of Paw Paw Marian Sheridan, 69, of West Bloomfield Ken Thompson, 68, of Orleans Kent Vanderwood, 69, of Wyominglol it’s all boomers and cusp Gen X/boomer
Sadly, they’ll all be found guilty but too old and white to actually go to prison for their crimes.
Beat me to it. This is exactly what I think will happen.
In cases such as this it would be amazing to bar them from having funerals.
“You’re too old to sit in a cell, so we’re just not going to ever lay you to rest”
Maybe it would help these criminals think about ramifications before committing their heinous offenses.
That’s actually an interesting idea. For high crimes committed by the elderly, sentence them to be de-memorialized. Their remains are interred only in a space-efficient public cemetery. They get no headstone, just a small post in the ground with a number on it to mark where they were buried, surrounded by hundreds of other posts.
Every year, the family of the deceased must pay a fee to maintain the site, or else the remains will be disinterred and disposed of so the plot can be recycled.
For the elderly criminal, they die knowing that they will either be forgotten by relatives who don’t care about them, or burdening their relatives who do care about them with annual fees.
That’s basically a prison graveyard, they’re on prison property and no one can visit…
I’m assuming people can still visit in this scenario. They just get a number on the headstone instead of the name. The family can be told that #37281 is grandpa and they can visit, and if they care enough to visit and keep the plot, that might encourage them to pay for what essentially amounts to financial compensation for grandpa’s crimes.
In cases such as this it would be amazing to bar them from having funerals.
“You’re too old to sit in a cell, so we’re just not going to ever lay you to rest”
Maybe it would help these criminals think about ramifications before committing their heinous offenses.
Oh come now, we have much worse punishments: they’re now under conservatorship, by Britney Spears dad and are on their way to the cheapest old folks home in their state. They’re “technology safe” so they can’t access the internet for their own personal safety…
Ya know, old folks prison, where poor people go after their family forgets about them and they die of neglect.
All cocksuckers on Medicare and social security and probably bitching about socialism.
And lick the boots of the military…which is socialized.
OLDS! THEY’RE OLD
Rose Rook, 81, of Paw Paw
Please tell me that is a real place
“Paw Paw is named for the pawpaw trees which once grew along the Paw Paw River,” and those trees probably got their name from British people trying to say “papaya”
Damn someone was just telling me I should plant paw paw trees the other day. Good fruit I guess?
If you catch them ripe then they are a seedy soft banana with a different flavor. It’s so soft that the best way to eat it is with a spoon using the peel as a bowl.
But they have a very short window of ripeness, there’s a reason that they’re not commercially grown and it’s generally because of the short ripeness window and they’re easy to bruise during transport.
If you’ve got the space and the time go for it, it’s a fun little conversation starter to give family, neighbors, & coworkers something that they may not know grows right in their back woodlot.
Wow TIL. It sounds amazing, can’t believe I never thought to look for north American native fruits like this. Thanks for the info.
Michigan has a Hell, so there’s no reason it can’t have a Paw Paw.
I’ve been there. When it SNOWED!
Did it freeze over?
It got a little moist, but we left before nightfall. (My mom, under no circumstances, was spending the night in Hell!)
Here’s the most important question: Did they have a human-sized handbasket?
No, but they do have a country bar.
well, not with kids in tow, certainly.
“Mooom! Paw paw from Paw paw’s trying to destroy our democracy again!”
A pawpaw is a real fruit, related to the cherimoya.
I blame dementia. I have a parent that’s still a Trump supporter. It’s as if they’ve lost the ability to use reason. I am pretty sure Trump could shoot them in the face and they’d still vote for/support him.
There’s theories about the lead from leaded petrol doing a lot of brain damage before it was taken out.
Without looking, something like ppl born before 1980 or so. I really hope so, the following Gen (mine) isn’t as hot as I’d like but hoping for the best.
He said in 2015 that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and people would still love him. One thing I will say is that Trump realized he could easily grift people like your parent. I am sorry, BTW. It sucks.
There are some younger people just as far gone as them but there aren’t usually as many at Trump events
I am pretty disappointed in the Gen X generation. I really thought we were going to be a lot more open minded and accepting of people than we have turned out to be.
Think of all the people you’ve known who were open minded and accepting and how small the number of them seemed compared to the majority when we were growing up. Know that a lot of those people probably went on to inspire those qualities in others and raise their kids to value those things. I’ve seen mainstream society come a long way from my childhood in the 80s and teens in the 90s.
I agree, I had a lot more hope for Gen X but we were up against the juggernaut of the boomer voting bloc. As those selfish fucks age out we’re finally looking at the possibility of righting the ship.
I agree that we have come a LONG way. I was in the first generation of ravers. I am aghast at some of my fellow old ravers and how they scorn the LGBQT community considering they were that their bars were often the only place we were offered safety and respect. The motto these guys wore on their sleeves was PLUR - Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect, but now they are SLUR.
A surprising number of ravers compared to my other social circles have gone full conspiracy, MAGA cult, qANON. IMO it attracted a good number of contrarians, counter culture, anti government types in the first place and they were bound to get roped into something like this. I thought hare krishna type things, but boy was I wrong!
That’s sad to hear. I was in the same scene. Fortunately the raver friends that I still keep in touch with didn’t go down that road.
Fuck boomers. Not literally, don’t fuck them….but FUCK THEM.
Can’t wait to see it all play out. You just know these people won’t accept responsibility and will blame others for their actions. I swear if they were 16-17 I wouldn’t be surprised but GOD DAMN, they’re all over 55 with 2 being over 80.
“We were just told to show up and sign this paper. If we had any information about it being untoward or illegal, we would not have done it”
That’s Ms. Michele Lundgren making excuses already. Like, you thought it was totally legal to pretend to be electors to subvert an election? Come on.
We were just following orders … wait, where have I heard that before?
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There are two people in there over 80, but the oldest baby boomers are “only” 77…
No living wage, no money for education, no money for health care, working three jobs to survive, and the world temperature and scarcity of housing are accelerating…
…but sure, let’s celebrate. This totally matters.
what?
Since I expect I’ll have to suffer several members of the conservative hive-mind moaning about this tomorrow, I did some quick research beforehand:
Here is a list of those who are charged.
This video shows the Republicans trying to enter the MI Capitol.
At ~35 seconds in, several people claim to be the state’s electors.
In no particular order, I think I have identified the following:
The woman between the orange beanie and red mitts at 60 seconds looks to me like MI GOP Chair Meshawn Maddock, who is among the charged.
The woman in the bottom left corner of the screen at 3 minutes and 19 seconds in looks to me like Michele Lundgren, a GOP former nominee for a House seat in Detroit which she lost in a major landslide, who is among the charged.
The woman near the bottom right of the screen at 3 minutes and 7 seconds in looks to me like MI GOP Vice chairperson Marian Sheridan, who is among the charged.
Papa Smurf on the left at 1 minute and 1 second looks to me like GOP member Ken Thompson, who is among the charged.
The woman in the bottom left at 1 second in looks to me like GOP member Rose Rook, who is among the charged.
You love to see it.
About 30 months later than it should have happened, but late is better than never!
Agreed, though it’s actually pretty fast for this kind of thing
Yeah, it’s totally normal for prosecutors to wait over two years to bring forgery charges and just let the suspects go about freely doing as they please that whole time, it’s not like anyone in recent history has been forcibly detained by a police officer and been suffocated to death by that officer’s knee being placed on their neck for an extended period of time after they tried to submit some dodgy paperwork or anything /s
Yay deliberative prosecution and due process. Wait no, not for those people!
Another of the 16 electors, Michele Lundgren, said she was distraught over the charges and she questioned what evidence prosecutors had.
The 73-year-old Detroiter said she had simply received a call on Dec. 13, 2020, to be in Lansing the following day. While there, Lundgren signed what she thought was a sign-in sheet, she said.
“We signed a blank piece of paper," Lundgren said. “And that’s all can tell you.”
This is going to be a super entertaining trial
does she do whatever the phone says? If I were to call her and ask for $10,000 she’d pay me?
Well she is the prime demographic for phone scams… so yeah, probably.
We signed a blank piece of paper!
Mental capacity of a bucket of used syringes
Imagine being dumb enough to commit a felony for a billionaire who hates you.
Good, fuck em.
This is good and proper.
These people are not “political prisoners”. They were part of an attempted coup, and should absolutely be prosecuted to the maximum extent that the law prescribes.
Good. They’re all traitors who violated our Constitution and attempted to subvert democracy for their cult leader. Throw the book at every single one of them.
Man I want a big greasy cheeseburger so bad. Dieting is not an enjoyable experience.
So, was it their job to be electors and they falsified something, or was it not even their job and they lied about that plus falsified something?
Wisconsin next please.
Some great FAFO going on.
Elder abuse to go and trick these poor old ladies and gentlemen. It doesn’t matter they were the ones stupid enough to fall for it, that’s why we have elder abuse laws.
E. I see now that my joke was clunky and misunderstood. What I mean to say is it that these people don’t get excused for being gullible pawns because what they did was criminal, and the people who organized this shit are much more culpable and should receive the more severe punishment. Luckily, these people are the same dumb assholes that made it law in Michigan to charge inmates $48,000 per year to be in prison, real real. So hopefully on the flip side of their sentences they are broke, in addition to being ex cons.
Is your stance that 55 year olds are not in a mental capacity to be eligible to vote? That’s much lower than I would have said.
ayyyyylmao
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