• papalonian@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    I used to be like this until I got a job that required constant phone calls. Now if I have to explain something using more than three sentences I’d much rather just talk.

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      23 days ago

      6 years of tech support and I dread email troubleshooting because I know it will take two weeks and 13 exchanges before we can actually start troubleshooting.

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        23 days ago

        Hello otacon239, thanks for contacting lemmy technical support. My name is tja, I love dogs and I will be thrilled to help you today. I understand that you dread email troubleshooting because it will take two weeks and 13 exchanges to actually start troubleshooting, is that correct?

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            22 days ago

            Hello otacon239, I understand that this is not what you expected and when a computer doesn’t work can sometimes get frustrating. My dog sometimes misbehaves and I also find it unacceptable. I’ll be happy to help you with your problem. Could you provide me the computer logs, electricity bills, last tax declaration, birth cirtificate in long form with 3 copies and the proof of Fermat last theorem?

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      23 days ago

      I’ve worked as phone support for a year and I hate phonecalls even more.

      I’d rather send an email with detailed steps and let people follow the instructions at their own pace. If they fail - remote.

      Phonecalls are a weste of everyone’s time.

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    23 days ago

    Easier if you send it to me in writing so I can properly digest it instead of having it immediately spill out of my ears.

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      23 days ago

      I’m with you on this. I prefer important conversations that require me to make a decision or remember something in writing. Just general conversation about what you got up to on weekend? Fine let’s talk it out.

      I understand so many more people prefer verbal communication because it’s easier for them to not have to type or put their thoughts into written words. I just wish more of them understood that it’s not the same for everyone and come to a compromise.

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      23 days ago

      Okay, but this is less of a question and more of me having 10,000 choices to make that I’m not actually allowed to decide.

      So can you just sit on the phone with me and tell me which buttons I can press without getting fired?

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      23 days ago

      You assume that you are talking to a competent person who has a real difficult problem, which is not the case in 95% of the time and they have some bullshit trivial thing that you already told them 5 times.

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    23 days ago

    At work this request means “I’m going to ramble for 45 minutes because I don’t understand it enough to form a question”.

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    23 days ago

    If they need to call me it’s either actually complicated, or (much more likely) they haven’t spent enough time to refine their idea to where they could just write it down.

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      22 days ago

      Or they can’t fucking write. I’m a programmer and many of my colleagues over the years have been entirely unable to form a coherent idea into a sentence or paragraph. For a lot of them, that’s why they became programmers in the first place.

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      Nine times out of ten it’s the second one. I don’t mind being a sounding board for some people, but so many sloppy thinkers just don’t understand and don’t want to make the effort.

    • no banana@lemmy.worldOP
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      23 days ago

      Honestly today I’m mostly thinking “I have other shit to worry about, like the pie in the oven”. Ain’t nobody got time for worrying about phone calls

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    22 days ago

    My manager is like this. I don’t know how to him it’s easier to talk about something technical over the phone rather than in chat or email. When talking to people about IT crap, you have to sugar coat and use euphemisms which I don’t have to do as much in email and the benefit with email is I can convey literally what I’m trying to do. My manager just doesn’t want to fucking ready my emails.

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      22 days ago

      Yeah, why would anyone want to have a two minute phone conversation when they could exchange the same amount of information over 20 emails across three days?

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        21 days ago

        Or like, you know, focus for a second and read the message instead of seeing text and responding only to first sentence, if not just the title xD

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    23 days ago

    “did you leave the milk out of the fridge?”

    Usually such a simple yes/no answer in my experience.

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    22 days ago

    The hell is this comment section? Is every lemmy user some kind of IT person? There is place for text, there is place for calls, and there is even place for actual presence, all depending on actual problem and yours and other person’s understanding of it and ability to articulate through different mediums.

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    I begin every business-related phonecall with “I’ll want this in writing”, and end it with “please send me an email with a summary of what we’ve talked about”.

    Guess what, the amount of phonecalls and complaints has halved, because I have proof in writing.

  • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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    “No.”

    Crisis averted, can get back to fixing things now. The only way you’re getting me on the phone is if there’s some audio component to the problem (alarm buzzers or tones they aren’t able to identify) that isn’t easy to explain in text. Other than that, there are usually just a handful of common issues and you can tell which path we’re going down after a sentence or two of their description.

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    I find zoom calls to be much more helpful than in person. In person I have to bring my laptop, point to things, find a place where we can both sit, and probably send you code snippets over chat anyway, not to mention literally looking over your shoulder.

    meatspace is deprecated, get over it corpos.

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      23 days ago

      Depends on the problem. For design and architecture level, sometimes even data structures, a physical whiteboard is still king.

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    22 days ago

    Fuck no

    I need traceable communications

    Send me an email, I don’t want to discuss potentially non contract and policy approved things over a medium that won’t record it

    People, keep your communications traceable at all times

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    22 days ago

    I didn’t generally mind this quite so much …

    Then someone just could calls me without even texting first… While I’m already in a meeting actively taking to someone else…