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    This is bizarre. The info provided in the question was that Marty ate more than Luis, the question was how would that be possible given that Marty ate 4/6 of his while Luis ate 5/6 of his. The answer the kid wrote (Marty’s pizza was bigger than Luis’) is the only possible correct answer.

    The grader is asserting that the information given in the question was wrong and that “actually it was Luis who ate more pizza”–even though it stated as a premise that “Marty ate more”. How are you supposed to give a correct answer on a test if you are expected to accept one premise (proportion of pizzas eaten) while disregarding another premise (Marty ate more than Luis)? How do you decide which part to disregard? Would they have accepted the answer, “Luis actually only ate 3/6 of his pizza, not 5/6)”? Wouldn’t that be just as valid an answer as “Marty actually didn’t eat more than Luis”?

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    The title of this post is disappointing. The given answer is sound and it seems safe to assume it was arrived at by thinking mathematically.

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      Right? He’s rationally explaining how that was possible given the question of “how” it is possible. In my opinion that question was written poorly.

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    Ah, a teacher that does not comprehend the barometer

    Two other right answers:

    • Luis’ pizza is at least <whatever is the correct fraction> smaller than Marty’s (which is basically the same answer as the kid’s)
    • Marty ate someone else’s pizza besides his own

    And, for funsies:

    • Luis’ pizza is 50% crust, so it doesn’t fully count as pizza
    • Luis doesn’t like pizza and actually fed the dog while nobody was looking
    • Marty is many years older than Luis, therefore he has eaten many years’ worth of pizza ahead of Luis
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      This is completely unrelated but I cannot believe Calandra is a real world name.

      The designers of the video game Path of Exile should’ve called their super rare item “Kalandra’s Barometer” instead of “Kalandra’s Mirror”.

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      correct fraction = 4/5, as in, Luis’ pizza is smaller than the 4/5 (80%) of Marty’s pizza.

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    Commendable for the kid to be thinking outside of the box, and a bit shitty of the teacher for not giving them maybe half a point (because it’s a correct answer, but not the correct/expected answer). The test maker is also to blame - they should’ve taken care to eliminate all ambiguity - it’s a math test after all.

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        Oh, yes, you’re right! I read the question again.

        P.S. And if really is a fake/made up test like some other folks claim in the comments, just look at how much of a discussion it throws us into.

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      The kid’s answer is the only correct answer. It’s not half right, or 5/6 or 4/6 right. It’s the only correct answer that fits the question. The teacher is a moron who has no business in a math classroom except as a remedial student.

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        Marty could’ve eaten someone else’s pizza besides his own, which would also make it a correct answer. The question didn’t say he ate 4/6 of his pizza and nothing else

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        My wife has pointed out that there is indeed one other correct answer. One kids is bigger – OR, the other kid’s is smaller. TWO right answers.

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    Teachers that don’t accept an unexpected but true answer are not teaching. The test taker had a correct take, one of the pizzas could be bigger than the other. It was not specified in the question. I am so glad I am out of school

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        The test key has the expected answer, which may even be wrong. If the test taker responds with something else, even if it solves the problem, it is not the expected answer. It’s stupid.

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      It really seemed like my fellow students lost their interest in math as we went through the grades here in the US.

      I still remember a kid in 2nd grade who learned how Roman numerals worked because they were interesting. By grade 6, actively detested math.

      Curious.

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    Curriculum and unappetizing methods of teaching are the problems.

    This kid has the right to question, to speak out what’s really logical, and is likely to be more street-wise.

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    It is entirely possible and his answer was correct. Question was phrased incorrectly, if the teacher wanted an answer “it is not possible” he should have said both pizzas were the same size.

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      A third option is that there is a third pizza eater who also ate 4/6th of their pizza and gave 2/6th up Marty in exchange for the 2/6th Marty didn’t eat.

      Or yeah maybe it was a larger pizza.

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    “This is not possible because…”

    This kid is never going to trust teachers again.

    He was right. The question is not even worded ambiguously. It was just written very poorly.

    Will the teacher admit that? Or is the expectation that this (likely neuro divergent) student should have just understood the expectations based on context clues or something?

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      This kid is never going to trust teachers again.

      If one bad response is enough to turn you off from anyone else teaching you anything ever, then you’re carrying some enormous trauma that has nothing to do with a single math question.

      If one bad response is enough to open your eyes to the fallibility of individuals and lead you to think more deeply about where you get your information and how you evaluate the correctness of a response, then you’re going to go far and develop a much deeper understanding of the world.

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      The question is not even worded ambiguously. It was just written very poorly.

      Its not a Maths test. Its a comprehension test.