• Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    29 days ago

    Mostly because our ability to organize and unify against the wealthy is overwhelmed by the wealthy’s tools to keep us factioned and distrustful of each other. Hence the necessity of the fascist enemy within rhetoric.

    The problem is, we humans are simple emotional beings who are really credulous when it comes to being told stuff we want to hear, and the wealthy have crafted messaging catering to this bias and wishful thinking (hence “you are the chosen people and have to massacre all the others who are spiritual flesh-eating zombies”)

    That sounds way cooler to the lumpen-proletariat than “you’re just another commoner, but if we work together we can topple the people who hoard all the stuff and make a fun themepark for everyone!”

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      29 days ago

      ngl I’d turn against my fellow man if I, exclusively, was offered a couple mil untaxed income instantly from a billionaire

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        27 days ago

        You’re not alone. Karel Čurda turned in Jozef Gabčík and Jan Kubiš for assassinating Reinhard Heydrich (The naziest nazi of all the nazis, also the chief implementer of the Holocaust. Also the only assassination effort implemented by the Allies). Čurda got the reward of one million Reichmarks for betraying his own sabotage team.

        Čurda would then be hanged for high treason in 1947.

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        Well that couple mil is gonna be completely useless if we go into a depression or worse suffer a total economic collapse.

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    29 days ago

    You say the larger of the two, but the majority of the USA voted for fascism and an absurd number of people just stayed home. It’s hard to grow a resistance when you simultaneously believe the simple folk are getting exactly what they deserve and asked for.

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      Voting stupidly doesn’t turn a working class person into an owner class person. We still outnumber them, it’s just that most of us have been tricked.

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      I’m not sure the majority voted for Trump considering all the election interference and Elon Musk’s fuckery.

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      Not even a majority of voters, let alone a majority of Americans. Just about 30% of adults in the US voted for trump. We still outnumber them.

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        Actually yes, a majority. Trump lost popular vote in 2016 but won it in 2024. IMO everyone eligible who stayed home is just as much complicit with Trump.

        More specifically the number of Trump voters barely increased, but the number of people who voted for Kamala was millions less than those who voted for Biden.

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            Trump: 49.8% of popular vote (77,302,580 votes)

            Harris 48.3% of popular vote (75,017,613 votes)

            He won the majority, unless you’re counting spoiled ballots that accomplished fuck all against empowering dictatorship.

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              The definition of majority is a percentage over 50%.

              49.8% is less than 50%

              I’m sorry if this is a difficult concept to grasp.

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                77,302,580 + 75,017,613 = 152,320,193

                77,302,580 / 152,320,193 = 0.5075 = 50.075% = MAJORITY

                And thats me being generous, I honestly think every third party voter was complicit with the Trump victory. Didn’t think I’d have to show work for somebody to understand basic addition, today.

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              Define words however you want, that doesn’t make it true. A majority is 50%+1. Anything less is a plurality. More people voted for someone other than Trump than those who voted for him.

              Beside the point, the original claim was a majority of Americans, and that isn’t even close to a majority anyways. Even with your funny definitions.

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      28 days ago

      The same people who have historically bankrolled and controlled Republicans also run the Democrats. It’s kinda hard to “fight the system” when the oligarchs are the system.

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        Then you would agree we should remove money from politics and…

        Oh! Whats this? The DNC passed campaign finance limits in 2002 which were overturned by the conservative SCOTUS in 2010 “Citizens United” decision? Huh, wow, thats crazy. Have any Dems talked about this recently? All of them? All the time? Neat.

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          28 days ago

          So what you are saying is that the oligarchs rule the system and your solution is to continue voting in that same system in which you are being ruled?

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            You’re going to sit there and “both-sides” in the face of one side clearly fighting against oligarchy and one side clearly fighting for.

            You’re going to pretend its all the same while Republicans, who created a deficit by cutting taxes for the rich and only the rich, are tryng to pass a budget that will remove 79 Million citizens health coverage a d defund hospitals.

            You’re barely even human.

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              The same socioeconomic class has been continuously the main benefactor of America economic policy for 50 years regardless of which party is in charge. Idk what more proof you require to accept the oligarchs run the system but you believe whatever you need to to make you feel safe and secure.

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    Because eating the rich will accomplish nothing if you don’t also change the underlying system that created them in the first place. And good luck getting everyone in the non-rich class to agree on what that change should look like.

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      29 days ago

      What if the rich kept getting eaten until they figured out a system that the rest of us were satisfied with

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      The 2% inflation target that excludes all investments you mean, so that we must consume more every year otherwise interest rates collapse and we gush out money like a sprinkler, as the rich load up on debt to short cash with their ever inflating collateral while gold and houses rise 10% a year.

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    29 days ago

    Because they taste like shit.

    Better to leave them outside for the polar bears to eat so they stop starving to death.

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    Because the rich don’t affect much in our current monetary policy, its the velocity of money that matters rather than the quantity.

    If they start buying out every grocery store then prices rise, interest rates rise, and their asset prices fall.

    Its the central bank that debases your salary though, making it buy less and forcing a wall of debt to gatekeep your housing.

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      You’re half right… monetary policy is a huge source of inequality, but that’s because congress obeys their rich owners.

      If there was some way to opt out of their monetary policy, then you’d think it would already be catching on. 😉