I knew this would happen and loads of people on lemmy accused me of “fearmongering” or “only caring about myself” when I said I’d vote Harris
“Kamala Harris is not the perfect progressive candidate in every way. How can I possibly vote for her? I’ll sit this one out. That’ll show 'em!”
People need to accept that the electoral system in the US is just a trolley problem at the end of the day unfortunately.
Basically, and people let ‘the enemy of perfect get in the way of good enough’. Progress is incremental unfortunately. That’s just how it is. We can accept that, or we get this crap.
At this point the trolley problem is "would you like to vote for killing 1000 per year for the next four years or would you like to vote for killing 4000 people this year with the hope that maybe it’ll cause the whole trolley system to self destruct…? (The numbers are purely illustrative).
Edit: apparently it’s not obvious that I think these are both horrible options, and I voted for the limping painfully along for an extended period.
At least you’re honest about this half-baked excuse for a plan
Got a better one?
I don’t need an excuse. I voted against the horror that is unfolding right now.
That isn’t how trolleys work.
Trump won because the people that voted for him actually like him, they aren’t choosing the lesser of two evils or whatever nonsense. The democrats message of “at least we aren’t as bad” was awfully inspiring.
Hey democrats, if you win what will you do with that power? Change nothing? Cool!
Blame the democrats for getting tight lipped about literally anything anyone cared about.
I voted for her because she was the lesser evil, but describing her as just “not the perfect progressive candidate in every way” is a gross misrepresentation. She was probably the most right leaning Democratic candidate to run in a general election and was openly adopting many of the Republican stances. There were basically two Republicans running.
Really? She was to the right of the Clintons? Obama? John Kerry, even? I think you have a selective memory.
There were basically two Republicans running.
Fucking absurd. There is a reason you don’t name one specific
With me, at least, they have moved on to, “you care more about your gay daughter than Palestinians!” Which… yeah. That’s called parenting. Along with, “why are you worried about a queer genocide that hasn’t happened yet?!” Because I don’t want to chance it? People can be such assholes.
It’s like yeah.
If both candidates mean gaza is fucked, but one of them means hundreds of thousands of extra unnecessary deaths to disabled people, homeless people, migrants, poor people, queer and trans people etc.
Of fucking course I’ll pick the least bad option instead of being apathetic about it. Especially since I’m a disabled poor person who has had bouts of homelessness.
These same people do not seem to understand that “least bad option” does not mean “good option.” Some of them are now justifying it by saying Harris supports genocide but all Trump supports is ethnic cleansing. Seriously.
I have always taken the advice of W.C. Fields: “I never vote for, only against.” Because there has never been a politician in my adult life that I would have voted for in a general presidential election. Or even a senatorial election,
Same. I’m an anarchist. I don’t believe in this distorted liberal democratic system that seems to benefit the elite no matter the outcome.
But I sure as hell am going to exercise my right to vote. It being a shitty system where I have little power doesn’t mean I should throw away the power I do have!
Socialism for the Rich. Rugged individualism for the Poor.
I dont think these people realize how close they are to being ripped apart in the street by an angry mob…and I kind of hope they don’t realize it until its too late.
The angry mob came when they didn’t win the election 4 years ago.
Are they though? Are they? Or is everyone too focused on not upsetting the status quo to even throw a pebble in protest?
Give it a few months. Also it will be a situation of critical mass. Seemingly nothing until it hits the tipping point, then suddenly massive
Comes as NO SURPRISE
Their level of cruelty is just expected now, huh. Sad times.
of course it is, and yes it’s sad. now do something about it.
I wish I could, honestly. Well-meaning Americans have my full support, though.
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LMFAO, WHAT BENEFITS?!?!?
While I agree the US does a fraction of what they could: Social Security
Medicare
Medicaid
WIC
HUD
ESG
COC
Department of Education
The list goes on and on. If you think there aren’t a LOT of social programs that they can cut, you are in for a very, very rough time.
Buddy, I’m being sarcastic here. I KNOW they’re gonna destroy tons of public services like that. The cruelty is the point.
I sympathize with the commentor who you are responding to although I know my present crap life could always get worse and probably will. Just doesn’t feel like much to lose
See, this right here is the MAIN AGENDA of the qon elitists.
All the other identity politics bullshit is largely red meat for his dipshit base. Sure, there are true believers like Bannon and Miller that are for that, but this is the MAIN thing: sending more money to the already extremely and obscenely affluent, and fucking the 99%.
Luigis needed
What ya waiting for?
Crippling back pain that ruins my life anyways
the only answer. don’t care about how we got here. no need to highlight their hypocrisy. we move forward from here. keep making the calls until it’s deafening.
Chopping off the head of a hydra is not an answer.
Who is feeding it?
a voter base of idiots that need to be dealt with the same way
Surely this will make groceries more affordable.
What I’m hearing is… the rich get richer. Hmmm…
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed Everybody knows the war is over Everybody knows the good guys lost Everybody knows the fight was fixed The poor stay poor, the rich get rich That's how it goes Everybody knows
If you slash OUR services, then you slash OUR taxes. You want to save the rich money, stop spending their taxes on bombs to rip the legs of little kids in Palestine, you ain’t spending my money on propping up their system, you’re using my money to help US citizens first. I’ll set an appointment with the cheese turd, might execute his secret service first just so he fuckibg listens for once. Also it’s not illegal to threaten secret service like it is the president. Hi secret service guy, I look forward to beating you to death so I can get to your boss for a genuine conversation where he realizes he is not all that powerful without you idiots pointing guns for him. See you soon shit squat.
This is dumb, you can do America First policies and have FDR-type socialism, or Nordic model policies, together. American permanent residents and citizens should get benefits they pay for via their taxes. Simple.
America is the land of wealth not well-being. Would you want to live out your retirement in America or Denmark?