I guess we’ll see if any other generation is different than they are/were. I somehow doubt it. I don’t see Gen X or Gen Y doing all that much. Too early to tell for Gen Z and alpha, I think…I think it’s human nature.

The boomers that I knew growing up mostly lived hand to mouth. My parents were boomers and I don’t really remember them being all that comfortable. They lived a very meager existence, lived extremely frugally (I think it was generational trauma in my own family coming from the Great Depression and my grandparents on both sides) and saved as much as possible. They took almost no vacations and they were some of the first ecominded people. They were leftists (of the older type), not so much the hippie type, and most of their friends were, too. I sure as hell know they wanted nothing to do with the Republicans and the ones that are still alive despise donvict.

So, I think it varies. People born in a certain age group are definitely not a monolith. Not every boomer went to Woodstock and then later did a heel-turn and went all-in on the Reaganites and became a Wall street trader yuppie…as much as that is the common stereotype.

Could not agree more. Not only that, but the kind of damage this does to people with legitimate claims is hard to calculate…

I think she should have gotten what he would have gotten for punishment.

Ugh, not nearly enough of a sentence.

So, all of boomers created this?

Oh, of course. I don’t think anyone DESERVES to live in destitution - and this is probably where progressives like me get made fun of, but it’s just how I was raised - even if they voted for donvict.

My lizard brain immediately wants to condemn people that were told not to vote against their own interest, but did anyway because of their hate of wokeness and DEI or whatever the hell. However, though I do rant here and elsewhere, I ultimately have compassion for people, even if it’s from their own actions…

As for those that voted against donvict, of course they don’t deserve it, though I know it’s now quite fashionable to dunk on “boomers” as if they are some monolithic block and that means every single one of them, to a person has caused the Republicans to get worse and worse. Personally, I believe this thinking is goaded on by elites, because it only divides us further…in addition to racism, xenophobia, transphobia, if you can whip up the various age groups and pit them against one another, you can sit back and count your money and be comforted in the notion that few people will cop to the reality…

Even that chucklefuck billionaire was talking about how it will be all robots - openly. Meaning, I don’t know how many sweatshop jobs will be on offer 5, 10, 15 years or whatever it takes to build that kind of infrastructure here…

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/03/tech-jobs-robots-lutnick-manufacturing-renaissance

Well, if you voted for these dumbasses and are now pikachu over how idiotic they actually are…hard to feel sorry for you.

BTW, if you say “I didn’t vote for that”…YES YOU DID. It’s not like donvict was quiet about his love for tariffs.

…we’ll have to check their voting history first.

It’s too bad Utah and Nevada are between Colorado and California…

It’s always the ones you most suspect.

Yeah, when you read transhumanist/futurist type of stuff and try to square that with a whole lot of people still operating with a linear mindset that think the next 10 years will be just like the last 10, it’s quite a bit of cultural cognitive dissonance. I think a lot of this will have to be reconciled one way or another.

I’m assuming America will choose the stupidest way possible, like electing a dipshit such as donvict who cannot even handle the old system very well. And forget about getting leadership thinking about a way to transition to a post-scarcity economy that doesn’t involve just transferring ALL the wealth to people like convict and fElon while they think about how to “downsize” all of the “useless eaters”.

If I could have one ask of advances in technology and things like age extension, etc…is that somehow, someway, developments in getting massive intellect AS WELL AS wisdom and morality acceleration in humans come online to go with it. Otherwise, we are just talking about apes with nukes, if there is no wisdom, morality and intellect to go with it… I’ve watched as the Internet became available to all and hoped it would make us all smarter and more media savvy; instead it’s helped to give rise to things like the alt-right and putting the convicted felon into office. Also, now more than ever, people seem to be proudly clinging onto the notion of being anti-intellectuals.

So…I have my doubts.

I didn’t read the Generation X book until maybe mid to late 90s, but some of the stuff really hit home, especially thing about lessness. Also, in Microserfs I think it is he had a part where one of the characters’ dads was sitting in his car after getting canned from IBM after decades of work - that really hit close to home, since my own father went through something very analogous to that.

Some of the comments on DU are pretty poignant, I think.

I honestly wonder once there is a closer inspection, it might turn out that Gen Y and Gen Z might actually fare better in some ways - it certainly seems they are going to get a massive wealth transfer. When I entered the market, it was during a recession. Things were okay for a bit in the mid to late 90s, but I was facing a lot of age discrimination aimed at people that were younger. I start digging out of debt and almost bought a new car and then didn’t (thankfully), then the dot-com bubble started to burst and 9/11 hit and things were fucked for years in IT. I made way less than I did before and went through multiple layoffs. Just when things are getting sorta stable again, along comes the real-estate crash and causes more layoffs…IT/engineering has always been boom and bust though, and so it’s hardly something relegated to any one generation, I guess. And now, with the ageism on the other end of the equation, there is pressure trying to people in my age bracket out of a job…which is really fucking ironic when people bitch about how “no one wants to work”.

Yeah, if people - and by that, I mean corporations - only value workers between a very narrow range of ages - say, 30-40, ideally with no kids and no responsibilities outside of work of any kind, and everyone else gets kind of the side-eye, can you blame people that start looking for ways to get out of the rat race “early” (meaning, in their 40s or 50s) or can you blame the very young for getting tired of being side-lined in a different way until they are “experienced” (but not too experienced as to demand too much money).

It’d be nice if our culture would stop with wanting only a very narrow range of ages when it comes to work. I get that you want people with some experience, but often those are set very arbitrarily as gate-keeping, and then, on the other side of it, the culture is trying to push people out that are “too old”…a whole lot of people actually do want to work, and into a very late age in fact but ageism is still not only politically correct, but actively sanctioned by the culture.

No worries, happens to me all the time.

You saw people on Lemmy cheerleading genocide?

Honestly, so many companies want to start with getting rid of skilled labor and try using “AI” to write code and so on; I don’t know why the board doesn’t ask the C-suite to replace THEMSELVES with “AI” for an experiment and see how that goes instead…the cost savings would be immense and they would no longer have to deal with outsized egos, to boot.

Oh, why don’t they do this, at least in my view? Oh, probably because all these people sit on each others’ boards and they aren’t about to show what a sham C-suite work is…

A sharpie for hurricanes, an LLM for trade policy. What a fucking world.

Yep. The market is a lot like politics that way.

You might not take an interest in markets, but markets take an interest in YOU.

I keep saying that but a lot of people that just like to be contrarians (I guess?) keep saying that the economy was not really good at all.

Uh, progressives did vote third party, claiming that donvict would be no worse, possibly better. That’s no lie. So yes, it was Republicans AND lots of “independents” and even progressives that said so. I watched them do it.

Also, playing the No True Scotsman with progressives…hilarious. You are not the arbiter of who is and who is not a progressive, although I know you’d like to call everyone you disagree with a “centrist”. Have fun with that. If we play the purity game enough, virtually everyone can be declared a “centrist”, but that’s not very constructive is it?

This guy is such a goddamn narcissist. Maybe they should have kept that dumb game show of his on the air, no matter what the ratings might have been (I never watched a full episode since I always knew the guy for being an insufferable asshole).