Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz announced Wednesday a major expansion of the military’s operation in Gaza involving the seizure of large areas of land that would be “incorporated into Israel’s security zones.”
    • Allonzee@lemmy.world
      114·
      6 days ago

      Palestine was genocided by fascists, who won, and are winning elsewhere.

      I think I’ve just switched sides, I’m on team climate change extinction. We inflict cruelty on all other life on this planet… And OURSELVES. Literally no one is happy, even the capitalists who are most responsible for human misery trying to fill the black hole in their chests with ever moar capital, even they can’t be made happy in victory as they’ll never have enough.

      Earth needs to shake us off its back for the sake of terrestrial life. To put it in terms the rest of my species understands, we’re a liability to the larger organization, and bring no redeeming value to the planet. As such, we should be summarily terminated.

      • Md27@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 days ago

        I always thought if the horrible side of humanity peaked again, we would have learnt our lessons and stop it.

        But instead the world order has approved Israeli crimes in Palestine.

        Weekly massacres, ceasefires broken by an international criminal (Bibi neten yahu)…

        Shameful, hypocritical, can’t believe our money is used to finance killing and not control this Trump recession.

        Doge could save a lot of fun money if they stop financing Israeli crimes against humanity, but instead they’re seppuku-ing their own agencies

        • Allonzee@lemmy.world
          3·
          5 days ago

          I think you’re confusing misanthropy based on the data with eco-fascism. Eco-fascists want to destroy heavy industry attempting to save humanity from itself. I’m saying we aren’t worth saving, and the earth doesn’t need saving from us because it has a mechanism to deal with us.

          It isn’t advocating violence, and therefore isn’t fascism of any stripe, to acknowledge the reality that we are subject to our habitat, not the other way around. Our species has lost respect for the very ground beneath our feet, and we aren’t the first problematic mutation that altered the climate that the planet had to correct for. See the trees of the carboniferous period. We’re merely the first species that had the agency not to, but chose to anyway.

          You might want to look at your biases if you think there’s a dirty accusation to be thrown for anything less than rah rah homosapiens! That’s just base tribalism.

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
    61·
    4 days ago

    centrists in here pretending they didn’t spend a solid year cheerleading genocide.

    This is their policy. They’re just mad that their second choice is carrying it out for them.

        • Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
          12·
          4 days ago

          apologists for genocide, too busy fighting to keep a left wing alternative out of power to bother with stopping fascists.

          Bunch of milquetoasts, servants of billionaires with nothing but hand wringing and crocodile tears for rising inequality.

          That’s my problem with liberals

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    1920·
    6 days ago

    Huh, weird. I thought peaceful donvict was going to end all this, unlike “Genocide Joe” and Kamala…

    🤦‍♂️ 🙄

    • distantsounds@lemmy.worldEnglish
      185·
      6 days ago

      C’mon Jack, Biden was still shipping munitions until his last days in office. None of those assholes we’re going to stop this

      • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
        43·
        6 days ago

        Yeaaaahh, but would it have been the exact same? Would it have been juuuust as bad as it is now, and will become, soon?

        • distantsounds@lemmy.worldEnglish
          76·
          6 days ago

          I suppose we’ll never know…outside of the fact Biden was still providing bombs up until the end of his term. Maybe he would have just stopped, but all of his actions refute the idea.

          • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
            55·
            6 days ago

            Yeah, no, sorry, not sorry, if you can’t see the difference between boden and Trump then you’re an idiot. I’m fresh out of patience for people claiming the cheeto isn’t that bad

              • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
                11·
                3 days ago

                This is akin to saying that there are NO differences between nazi Germany 1941 and today Gaza.

                Disingenuous, dumb, and ignorant.

                Nobody denies that what is happening in Gaza is bad, that it is a genocide, that the entirety Israeli government should be put against a wall (and so should the entire leadership of hamas, standing next to them)

                Calling them the same is just so fucking ignorant and that I don’t even know where to start.

                In the same way, saying that Biden had the same policies as Cheeto is just plain ignorant and I would urge you to start reading a book or something. Start reading Wikipedia, perhaps? Anything, but get actual information

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
      93·
      5 days ago

      Huh, weird. I thought peaceful donvict was going to end all this, unlike “Genocide Joe” and Kamala…

      No one said that.

      Progressives tried to warn centrists that they would lose if they continued their support for genocide. Progressives were not significant enough to listen to, so they’re not significant enough to blame.

      Unless you want to admit that you were wrong and that democrats should have listened and dropped their support for genocide.

      • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        15·
        5 days ago

        Um, lots of people said that, including donvict himself.

        And when did I say Democrats shouldn’t listen to progressives like me?

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          5 days ago

          Progressives don’t lie about Progressives’ positions and then pretend they were talking about republicans when they get called on it.

          • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            32·
            5 days ago

            Uh, progressives did vote third party, claiming that donvict would be no worse, possibly better. That’s no lie. So yes, it was Republicans AND lots of “independents” and even progressives that said so. I watched them do it.

            Also, playing the No True Scotsman with progressives…hilarious. You are not the arbiter of who is and who is not a progressive, although I know you’d like to call everyone you disagree with a “centrist”. Have fun with that. If we play the purity game enough, virtually everyone can be declared a “centrist”, but that’s not very constructive is it?

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
              22·
              4 days ago

              Uh, progressives did vote third party, claiming that donvict would be no worse, possibly better.

              So you’re blaming progressives for harris’ loss.

              So yes, it was Republicans AND lots of “independents” and even progressives that said so. I watched them do it.

              You’re just straight up lying. Doubling down on your lie about progressives. Stop lying about progressives’ positions and maybe someone will believe you when you say you’re a progressive.

    • 2ugly2live@lemmy.world
      53·
      5 days ago

      They’re not going to want to hear it. For them, wanting your country to not fall apart equals being okay with genocide. It doesn’t matter that everything is much, much worse. There is even a comment saying this is our punishment for funding genocide. Families that are being broken apart, rights stripped away, growing tensions with literally everyone, and a fucking DOGE department, that’s our punishment for trying to not make things not as terrible as they could be.

      I’m so fucking sick of them going “Oh, so you don’t care. You’re okay with bombing people.” No, no we are not. We are not over here giggling happily at the horror going on. I didn’t see anyone in the town halls or protest going, “now, we’re okay with genocide, but only if we have rights.” Just because we are also worried about our country does not automatically mean that we don’t care anyone else.

      The people in my country are also important. I want them to have Healthcare and food and basic rights. Trying to make the best choice out of two shitty choices is not us going “well, genocide is a okay.” Over, and over, and over we were told there’s no difference between who was elected. BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. This is the fucking difference. I don’t want to focus on fucking Musk and Trump. I don’t even see people speak about the genocide as much anymore because we’re drowning in Trump/Musk news. The protests in my area have shifted because we can’t protest if we don’t even have the right to do so. We can’t vote against anything if we CAN’T FUCKING VOTE.

      I wish it was as simple as just not voting, or at the very least not having a two party system, but we did not have that option last election. It was either Harris or Trump. Did I fucking want Harris? NO! Did I believe she would be, even if by a small amount, easier to deal with than Trump, yes. Yes I fucking did. But I fuck me I guess for caring about Gaza and my countrymen.

      • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        42·
        5 days ago

        Agreed. With donvict and his zero-empathy crew, the terror and misery are going to be brought here and waged against much of the country, in addition to in Gaza. In addition to him being even worse on Gaza.

        The galaxy-brained so-called “leftists” (I question how many actually are) would have us believe that allowing donvict into office is just fine, and them abstaining from voting or throwing a vote away on a joke of a third party even makes them righteous.