i can’t stand megathreads – no one reads these! no one wants their posts banished there!
This may be an unpopular option since I’ve already seen it across lemmy, but the ____porn communities. I’d like to browse pictures of nice landscapes or exotic cars without worry about someone around me noticing “PORN” on my screen.
At this point it seems very old internet, something that made sense when those communities were established, but now is unnecessary gratuitous and not socially acceptable.
I saw a post about a community created here called “pixel passport” which I thought was a hell of a lot better that “earth porn.”
EarthPixels. CarPixels. PornPixels. HistoryPixels. This could work.
Those are great names! I would subscribe to more communities with names like that.
OnlyPixels sounds great, too, for a general community of nice everything.
I really like that name. Way better than Earthporn. Thank you for sharing, I subscribed!
Link: !pixelpassport@lemm.ee
Indeed. I like ‘Earthporn’ too, but I think it should be all nature pictures that look like genitalia and suchlike. Rocks or trees that look like penises for example.
Couldn’t agree more. It sucks to try to bring someone to a new platform and go “you love decorating right? Then check /r/roomporn! No no, it’s not porn I swear… Sigh”
I agree. I think it’s terrible name, and ti just invites unnecessary drama.
Nothing like someone peaking over your shoulder and seeing you’re browsing r/AnimalPorn…
I totally agree with you. Hopefully lemmy can be a little more mature with community names. (Yeah, yeah… I know the hypocrisy of my username… It’s my gamertag)
There is (was?) a ”nosillysuffix” sub that would aggregate all those *porn subs.
I sometimes block them within the app. I use Liftoff.
Wait till you hear how much I learn and engage with the world in r/animetitties
Unixporn?
Damn, I had forgotten how obnoxious that was on Reddit. Blocked all of those years ago because it was just unnecessary and a gross way to qualify otherwise unremarkable photos.
I agree, but I also think that porn should still be welcome here. The issue is there needs to be better control over it entering the feeds, not that the communities themselves should be abolished.
I think the above commenter is referring to stuff like EarthPorn or FoodPorn or UnixPorn
Oh duh I always hated the names of those subs. The only thing worse are subs like InterestingAsFuck and NextFuckingLevel which always gave the same vibes as a Watchmojo video.
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no. fuck you.
I’ve tried a couple apps and it looks like they’re trying to at the very least not have uncensored porn on your all feed. So that’s a step up.
When people turn a popular post into an Oscars Acceptance Speech
ETA: wow thanks for the upvotes!
ETA2: omg my first gold award?? I couldn’t have made it without my mom and Jesus through whom all things are possible
Hilarious.
I had my entire Oscars Acceptance Speech all ready to go in 2018 for nothing. Stupid Frances McDormand.
😂 this really annoys me on Quora. I never understood why one feels the necessity to do so.
Can we stop talking about Reddit? Let it go.
This
(I’m so sorry. I couldn’t resist)
You maybe should have tried harder to resist.
Yes, Lettit!
Moderators who coddle bigots.
Bigots.
This is my #1 also. So many people “just asking questions”
I also hate the circlejerk of people going “I cannot possibly comprehend being gay/trans/disabled/whatever but I let them do what they want!” They’re not aliens, you can listen to them explain what they are going through and have empathy. It’s not very complicated.
I think it’s a good attitude to serve as a stepping stone away from bigotry, it appeals to the bigots by offering some common ground while giving them a path to becoming less outwardly bigoted. Social progress takes time, especially with attitudes engrained as much as homophobia used to be.
Agreed, I grew up in a very conservative area and was pretty homophobic when I started college.
“They can do whatever they want, just don’t ask me to like it” was an important stepping stone towards “oh shit, love is love” and finally actually listening to the experience of gay people.
Ultimately “live and let live” is all we can ask of anyone. If that is their attitude then they aren’t a bigot. People are expecting too much of other people now - not embracing someone does not make someone a bigot.
Your starting position to me is honestly enough but unfortunately many people are way away from that. As a gay guy, I’d be happy with people just saying “do whatever you want want, just don’t ask me to like it”. The problem is too many people claim that with words but then actually act differently.
There is a decent argument historically that communism and other left movements are extremist, racist, and anti-lgbtq. When you start banning concepts, you open your communities up to several things.
- Group think
- Banning of other radical ideologies that you may agree with
- You alienate those people from exposure to better concepts
- You jump start compaction cycles for large scale propaganda organizations that could lead to actual violence
I said “bigots” and you immediately jumped to “whatabout communists?!”
I provided four reasons why this was relevant and you jumped from communism to whataboutism? Talk about being intellectually lazy (Or a state-sponsored account)
I provided four reasons why this was relevant
After starting right out the gate with:
There is a decent argument historically that communism and other left movements are extremist, racist, and anti-lgbtq.
We’re talking about today. On a relatively new community. Frankly, I see no reason to tolerate the bigots you’re so keen on coddling until they take over and make this another version of reddit’s the_donald, complete with organizing nazi rallies. Particularly not with the vague and spurious “there is a decent argument” hand wavy FUD that you didn’t explain as a justification. Are a lot of people saying it?
Moving onto your 4 points, let’s look at how they worked so well over at reddit, with all the virtuous acceptance of intolerance and nazi-coddling they’ve done, shall we?
Group think
No, reddit has never had groupthink. Not for an instant. Thank god they let the bigots in otherwise they’d have groupthink!
Banning of other radical ideologies that you may agree with
Post anything on conservative even slightly counter to their bigoted orthodoxy and see how that goes. Hell, suggest that fascism is not amenable to reason and must be opposed with force anywhere on reddit and see how that goes.
You alienate those people from exposure to better concepts
They had abundant exposure to better concepts on reddit. Look how well that’s worked so far. Clearly the answer is to let them spread their shit all over lemmy.
You jump start compaction cycles for large scale propaganda organizations that could lead to actual violence
the_donald literally promoted and helped organize a nazi rally where Heather Heyer was run over and killed by a nazi’s car. On lovely ol’ bigot-coddling reddit. The sub was not banned for years afterwards. I do not want that for lemmy. I left reddit the instant an alternative that didn’t welcome bigotry got enough users.
Not everywhere has to entertain bigots. There’s already too many places that do. A community that welcomes bigots is unwelcoming to everyone but bigots. But holy shit, does it ever drive engagement.
Or a state-sponsored account
Oh, we’re throwing around wild accusations now?
Yes, I started with the reasons why left-leaning movements have been restricted historically right out of the gate. It is not coddling bigots. It is providing context on why any form of radical idea is restricted, including ideas that we tend to celebrate in these communities. Communist propaganda has historically put fourth that anything that is not communist is inherently fascist. Is that your definition of fascism? Are folks allowed to talk about the French protests? To many they are based in fascism.
In my opinion, you are literally promoting groupthink and closing yourself off to ideas by attempting to ban content that you disagree with based on your own definitions. Life is a little more nuanced when you are not talking about specific issues by which you know the full context.
Also, is it a relatively new community or is it an established one that you want to preserve the culture of? I am getting very mixed messages from you.
Yes, I started with the reasons why left-leaning movements have been restricted historically right out of the gate.
No, you started with an unsupported allegation about all left-leaning movements:
There is a decent argument historically that communism and other left movements are extremist, racist, and anti-lgbtq.
Support it or don’t accuse me of being intellectually lazy.
Communist propaganda has historically put fourth that anything that is not communist is inherently fascist.
Why am I getting “Anyone who disagrees with you is a fascist! Everyone’s a fascist to you leftists!” vibes from this?
Also, is it a relatively new community
In the context of broader world history, which is what you were talking about when you were baselessly calling anyone on the left anti-lgbtq.
or is it an established one that you want to preserve the culture of?
It’s a new community that I don’t want overrun with nazis like you’d prefer.
Asking for proof of this is like asking for proof that the Constitution exists. It’s a very common thing I referenced. Western anarchism has a more positive history but largely linked to furtherment of the cause over actual progression of liberties.
Cuba: https://www.thedailybeast.com/fidel-castros-horrific-record-on-gay-rights
USSR: https://www.thecollector.com/harry-whyte-gay-communist-writes-to-stalin-soviet-union/
CCP: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0268580918812265
My point in bringing it up is that it’s extremely easy to craft a narrative that starts including relatively positive forms of speech in with the banning. That includes these little forums and your approach is exactly what happened on Reddit eventually leading to the current influx of members here now. The second you start restricting speech is when the forum starts consolidating power.
Donald Trump was elected president primarily because he could control his messaging and direct different narratives to different demographics. He was unable to do that as president so he lost the next election. By encouraging the siloing of information sources, you enable that behavior.
I don’t want Nazis but the best way to turn them is not by sending them into a forum where they are left unchecked.
You linked “communism” and “left movements” to “banning concepts” as if they go hand in hand.
You’re question begging hard, and all of your “reasons” are built on top of propaganda and logical fallacies.
Left-leaning radical ideologies are banned all the time and usually use the same laws set up to ban far-right movements. I am not begging the question but feel free to continue spouting off the names of logical fallacies. I almost have a bingo.
I deal with propaganda and strategic messaging professionally, so by all means attempt to lecture.
People who wear mustaches
Beets
Bears
Battlestar Galactica
“Thanks for the gold kind stranger”
Take my updoot
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You forgot to add the "Edit: " part because they always have to come back and edit every 2 minutes.
Edit: “Whoa my first gold! Thanks!”
Edit2: “Wow this is silly, thanks everyone!”
Edit3: “While you’re here, let me tell you my life story.”
EditAdNauseum: High pitched ear ringing
Karma-whoring. It’s already started with the stupid “upote my can of beans” posts… Dude nobody cares about your internet points, either activity participate or fuck off to Instagram.
This. It’s why I hope we don’t have any sort of Karma system on Lemmy.
There’s just no need for it. I like the ability to upvote/downvote posts for visibility, but a karma or point system just encourages whoring, which leads to a dirth of lazy and low quality content
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Up/Down vote systems also suck, and are inherently problematic, and encourage unhealthy behaviors. I say get rid of them.
Please don’t let /c/asklemmy become like /r/askreddit, which had half of the front-page posts being the same sex related questions every month.
“Women of reddit, what non sexual thing that guys so makes you horny?”
“What is the sexiest thing you regret doing?”
“How many cocks have you sucked while your cat judges you while waiting for you to feed it?”
It was bullshit.
Remember this classic:
Ladies of Reddit - what is the most sexiest thing an overweight gamer has done that made you immediately want to have sex with him/be his girlfriend?
The “hivemind” ignoring the correct information or even worse, encouraging the wrong information.
Does anyone else remember the whole Boston Bomber fiasco (i.e. We did it, Reddit)?
A lot of people would just upvote the first bozo to reply with a confident answer and never bother to check for the full story. Scrolling 3 comments down you’d find someone who actually knows their stuff. I learned to at least read most of the comments before committing any Reddit info to memory as fact.
It’s most noticeable when the topic being discussed is your area of expertise. Then you clearly see what kind of grossly oversimplified or even blatantly false comments get made with so much confidence and upvoted.
I tried to keep this in mind while reading stuff that I’m not an expert in, but that’s hard.
Then you come out facts swinging, and despite possessing vastly more knowledge on the subject and presenting factual/cited corrections to their claims, you are the one downvoted because the userbase has already decided the false claim is more fun to believe.
Let them continue to devolve in their cesspool. They can have it… They deserve it…
People who don’t know/acknowledge the difference between “free speech” and “hate speech”
Ads.
Fuck ads.
He Get Sus
Sponsored posts, banner ads, algorithms, and other advertising-industry fuckery.
A reply that’s just “r/(some subreddit name).”
A robot trying to sell stolen fan art printed onto t-shirts.
People childishly self-censoring non-sweary words. “Sex” isn’t a bad word, but writing “s*x” suggests you probably shouldn’t be allowed on social media at your stage of development.
Trigger warnings; not once did I click on a post in Reddit and not have an accurate expectation of what I was about to see.
My cat didn’t get any love over on insert community name here. I hope you guys updoot me more than they did.
updoot
WORST.
I hope that the mod-user relationship will be healthier here. (Bias, I was a reddit moderator.)
Some reddit mods were crap, this is true. Powermods and sub collectors were real. They did shit up a few communities.
But these people were a very small proportion of all moderators. Most moderators I met were chill, and just wanted to chip in to their respective communities to give back, in a way. Volunteering for internet janitor duty, because no matter how much people use the term as an insult it turns out public spaces need janitors - or they get filled with shit, trash, graffiti (and not the cool kind either, mostly badly drawn swastikas). It’s not a position that should be glorified, or anything, because that’s weird, but I hope that some semblance of basic respect can be maintained here on Lemmy - both ways, meaning no powermods but also no defaulting to assuming mods suck.
I say this with the best of intentions so bear with me, but I think most of the disdain towards moderators on Reddit came from locking threads due to “excessive trolling” or “y’all can’t behave” etc. It was so visible and immediately shut down conversation which was frustrating for average users. In my opinion excessive trolling isn’t a reason to shut a thread. The only things that would really need to be shut down would be things that are straight up illegal. Obviously people saying offensive things or trolling is an issue but, again in my opinion, that’s what the whole upvote downvote system is for, and moderators can step in for things that are blatantly out of line.
I don’t approve of comments that try to make fun of the userbase while removing their ability to respond, to be clear. But here is the alternative perspective as to why threads would be locked:
When I moderated r/polls, we would occasionally lock threads because we literally couldn’t keep up. If it was a topic that particularly drew out the bigots in force, they would pile in faster than we could ban them. A thread like this could get over a thousand comments if it was one of the top ones that day. The solutions were then either:
- Allow bigotry to fester in the thread for extended periods of time
- Have one or more moderators camp on the thread in real time trawling through new comments, perhaps for hours on end
- Lock the thread
This was on a sub of about 200,000 users, with 5-8 mods. There are subreddits with many times this amount of subscribers, so I can only imagine they might have an even lower threshold for locking.
Allow bigotry to fester in the thread for extended periods of time
I know this will be a controversial opinion but I just don’t see this being a big deal. Those comments inevitably get downvoted and kicked to the bottom of the list, and if you expand a comment that’s -10 karma you probably know what you’re getting into. I created and modded a sub that now has over 2mil subs and never once have I locked a thread (granted, it’s one that’s non political but we got our fair share of weirdly bigoted comments)
Allowing bigots a platform leaves the possibility that they band together, upvote each other, and normalize their opinions on your community gradually until people stop questioning it.
Add on to that the fact the OP on reddit directly receives each comment on their post as a notification by default.
Yes, another thing I don’t ever want to see here: normalization of bigotry & fascism.
On Twitter, I saw one of the chuds saying “You’re judging all Nazis as assholes!”
Why yes I judge all Nazis as assholes! Fuck normalizing fascism. KILL IT WITH FIRE, MODS!
But couldn’t that have come from the few moderators that did actually suck?
When someone would ask a good question that you also wanna know the answer to, but then all the “answers” were just jokes bc everyone wanna get upvotes. I dont really mind jokes but those times it was a bit sad, then sometimes no one would answer for real bc i guess they see 10 replies and assume surely one of them is real already.
Also repost bots.
And apple vs samsung feuds.
And sometimes looked like whenever some people try to organize action or protests, comments just spamming that “protests do nothing” or “voting does nothing,” or “what is this gonna do,” not suggesting any other solution either, almost like trying to encourage apathy? Or discourage action. Sometimes i wondered if those were bots.
Also the r/wooosh when someone didn’t understand a joke. .-.
Nothing enrages me more when you have a very specific problem and the only result is a reddit thread that’s filled with jokes, irrelevant information, and no solution.
The only think worse than no solution is the “I found the solution on my own, thank you guys” and than they don’t tell you the solution.
The ragebait fake text message screenshots that plague subs like antiwork.
Wow, your dickhead boss is stupid enough to put all of that in writing and has the exact same style of writing, spelling and grammar as you do? Isn’t that a coincidence!
