More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.
“We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.
“Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”
It is important to note that foreign nations like Iran, Russia and China are using this topic to convince voters to allow facism to win the election in the US. This doesn’t mean that Israel shouldn’t be held accountable for their actions. But history shows how foreign actors use these topics to manipulate us.
I think it is important to note that a surprisingly large number of voters say they like fascism without any need to rationalise that as foreign meddling. Being told that you are good because you are ingroup and they are bad because they are outgroup is an enduringly popular message with a large minority of people.
Looks like teaching history was important after all…
I have to say, “The evil foreigners are to blame for us becoming fascist” is an onion-level take.
I mean, it’s no secret that a bunch of countries are running massive disinformation campaigns in order to divide the populations of western countries. Attempting to destabilise another country by propping up certain political factions is a tactic that has been employed across the world for at least the past century (see: Lenin, and how he got in power).
Of course, we are responsible for ensuring that we do not become fascist states, but acting like theres no outside influence propping up the fascists is naive at best.
Yes, but the point stands: Lenin wasn’t grown in a vat in Berlin, he was only ever in Vienna because being in St. Petersburg would get him arrested. There are American political factions favored by certain foreign nations, but they are, at the end of the day, American political factions. And I frankly find it
deeply depressinghilarious that the current state of the discourse seems to agree that foreigners are destroying the country, but can’t agree over which foreigners exactly. Talk about Overton loopholes.
So many options for the title:
Jiminy Cricket is a Putin plant.
America’s Collective Conscience: Misguided or Manchurian Candidate?
Ask not what your country can do for genocide, ask what genocide can do for your country.
Important to note that fascism and genocide broadly persist under the current Harris co-led administration. Persecution and the marginalization of black Americans persists in the most democrat-controlled cities of America, not just in the Uyghur Autonomous Region.
Amusing that Americans fear countries that, even combined, are responsible for a fraction of the worldwide political coups and corruption America itself is responsible for.
America has singlehandedly propped up the Israel military, why pretend it is divorced from moral responsibility in the aftermath of a genocide?
doesn’t mean that Israel shouldn’t be held accountable
Why pretend Americans have any moral high ground in geopolitics, especially regarding Israel?
This new tack that Harris is bad for Black people is as transparent as it is far fetched.
As the California AG, she piloted programs that provided educational resources to both released prisoners, as well as at risk kids beginning in elementary schools.
Those programs reduced truancy and improved outcomes for at risk individuals and families, who were disproportionately black. They have since become national models of social harm reduction.
Harris supports legalization of marijuana and releasing non violent drug offenders, again disproportionately benefiting black Americans.
Edit: Although these statements are all trivial to verify, some people may lack the basic search skills to do so. the following links provide additional information:
Attorney General Kamala D. Harris Launches Initiative to Reduce Recidivism in California 2013
Kamala Harris, District Attorney for San Francisco, launched Back on Track 2009
[The program has] Been adopted by the National District Attorneys Association as a model program.
Kamala Harris Will Legalize recreational marijuana 2024 official campaign announcement
Why spout obvious lies when Google exists? There are many examples of Harris fighting to keep now-overturned convincts imprisoned as well, need I go on?
“Defiance of the federal court order requiring the reduction of the California prisoner population is reminiscent of the Southern governors of the 1950s declaring their defiance of federal court desegregation orders,” Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of UC Berkeley Law School, told NPR at the time. “Both were misguided efforts to undermine enforcement of the Constitution.” Added Barry Krisberg, longtime president of the National Council on Crime and Delinquency, “The legal arguments that the state is putting forward make no sense.”
https://prospect.org/justice/how-kamala-harris-fought-to-keep-nonviolent-prisoners-locked-up/
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Is this a reflection of the kind of insults you heard as a child learning to interact with others?
Go back to your country
A white supremacist slogan from a supposed anti-fascist?
You’re being downvoted but you’re not wrong. While a Trump presidency has dark implications it happening due to foreign interference would be no different than the coups, assassinations, and implanted dictatorships America has done in other countries for decades. Trumps whole immigrant fear mongering doesn’t happen if the US government had helped the countries they fucked up in Central and South America.
I think it’s important to remember this
Do Muslim’s really think voting for Muslim ban guy who would give Israel even more weapons a better choice?
No but Russian troll farm employees sure want us to believe it.
Oh good, this must be a safe community. Asklemmy@lemmy.ml banned me for having the audacity to suggest the russian trolls might be fewer in number than the number of their accounts would suggest.
Yeah, their admin is working for russia.
Many are extremely conservative, and just want a tax cut.
The tax cut that Turnip would only give to the 1%?
Lot are well off, and the rest think they’ll get it anyway.
Remember, the Trump tax cuts were popular-ish even when most people got like $100/yr.
No, but virtue signaling white folks will be happy to tell you that, rather than “voting for genocide”, it’s better to vote 3rd party or not at all… thereby electing Trump.
It’s a principled nut punch to every Muslim, themselves, and all the rest of us. So brave.
Look, another group democrats hate. I’m sure if you hate them enough it’ll go full circle.
Maybe its not so much third party voters as it is the vast majority of americans are intolerant selfish people.
Or maybe people who don’t live under the American 2 party system DONT UNDERSTAND HALF A FUCK of what’s going on in our elections and should shut the FUCK up and eat a whole potato instead.
Respectfully.
Edit: But it couldn’t be that, otherwise why in the everloving butthole would you still be talking out of your poop shooter?
Love your energy!
BOOM! Alcohol!
Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon.
Watch the “a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide” crowd claim these Palestinian and Lebanese Americans support genocide in Palestine and Lebanon.
Just don’t bring up CCP genocide, they are totally cool with that genocide.
They claim it isn’t happening. Just a Western lie.
Wow, this milkshake brings all the .ml to the yard.l
Good, I hope it does some good. Any other vote is a vote for Trump, intended or not, and Trump won’t just ignore the genocide. His track record makes it abundantly clear that he’ll absolutely make it worse.
I mean he is where money is and that is powerful zionist lobbies so yea you can bet money that he will be super enthusiastic to help Israel.
Not that I’m not glad, but this kind of endorsement needs time to permeate, and could’ve shut up a large chunk of disingenuous contrarians a MONTH ago.
I don’t agree that the disingenuous contrarians would give a shit.
Man, I hope this changes some minds, but it might be too little too late. She’s had a lot of opportunities to turn things around with the Arab community, and she’s flat out ignored all of them. I’m really worried this will be her version of Hillary’s, “I don’t need to campaign in the Rust Belt,” decision.
How is her getting this endorsement over Trump stunning? It’s a no-fucking-shit development
Because somehow there are Muslims and Arab-Americans who have convinced themselves that voting for the guy who instituted the “Muslim Ban” and called their countries “shitholes” is better than voting for Harris.
There is a reason why Netanyahu and his war cabinet haven’t listened to people (including in Biden’s administration) pushing a cease fire. It’s because Netanyahu knows that if Trump wins, he will have permission to “finish what he started” in Gaza. Then Trump and Kushner will build golf courses there with Saudi money.
More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.
Agreed. I am not stunned by this. “We have to pick the less shitty option” is not new, and it does not interest me. I’d be interested in, say, the world actually getting better, rather than just getting worse at either a slower or faster speed.
Yeah but that’s not the choice offered to you. And you can only make the choices you are offered.
That is the perspective of one who does not see beyond conditioned existence.
I wish these .ml clowns would hold their impotent revolution stirring for ONE critical election. Once trump is gone and MAGA gets told they are unacceptable by a massive blue tsunami, then trump is completely into dementia before he gets another chance to lose, then you can go be a hero and fight against our interests at home in favor of…still doing genocide…or whatever ignorant magical change you think is going to happen instead.
If they’re having their revolution by voting in an election they need to brush up on what a revolution is.
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Brutal. You have to support the one who kills half of your children because the other one will kill all of them.
We live in the most depressing timeline. Please vote for genociders. They won’t stop the genocide. But they also won’t turn America overnight into a dictatorship. It’s the best of 2 profoundly horrifying and depressing options. Another decade of international American war crimes awaits either way. But at the least, the status quo for Americans is better than fascism.
With a nation as powerful as the US, it’s never going to be one issue, and the options are rarely going to be simply good things versus simply bad things - at least until we have a form of democracy that is more representative and we do a lot of work on a, let’s just admit it, undereducated, overly propagandized, and far too distracted electorate.
Article is syndicated from The New Republic fwiw.
They must not know Claudia de la Cruz.
Just as this letter expresses people should respect those who don’t wish to participate in this duopoly.
Voting Trump in might increase the genocide but is it different than what Democrats would do.
Those who say time to change policy is after the election must remember what happened to all the student and Jewsish protestors against Biden/Harris 's support to Israel. They were gunned down by rubber bullets and water cannon and tear gas. This will not change.
Donald Trump is openly talking about deploying the military against leftist protestors and calling them “the enemy within”.
No matter what Biden and Harris are doing, they’re not doing that. They’re not fucking Kent State-ing people.
Please google all of the pro Palestinian protests and its outcome. All the protestors were arrested.
Please look up the Kent State Massacre.
It didn’t just end with arrests.
Maybe the Democrats won’t stoop to that level.
Or live and learn, Democrats won’t do that yet, fearing backlash.
Perhaps, but Trump is outright promising it. He is flat out saying he’ll deploy the National Guard and the military against the “enemy from within”.
He is a fascist so I wouldnt put it beyond him.
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That’s exactly what all the people who didn’t bother voting in the Brexit referendum thought. “The outcome is set in stone, no need to vote”.
Don’t waste your vote!
This might make sense in the primary, but not in the general election. The more the popular vote skews toward Harris, the more indefensible Donald will seem when he tries to claim it was stolen.
Also fwiw I wouldn’t feel comfortable voting Jill Stein, there’s a lot of podcasts I’ve heard saying she’s basically a grifter at this point.
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The woman who had no issue lunching with Putin in 2015 after Russia annexed Crimea in 2014? The woman whose current position is for not providing Ukraine with monetary/military assistance?
That’s not a good record on genocide.
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You’re definitely not unlike many American voters, unfortunately. Uninformed Americans are voting all over our country right now.
Bad take
