Technically, he froze to death.
Technical there was room for two on that door
Everyone is all “actually it would be impossible” like this bitch did math before telling the guy to go fuck himself.
Only if they both had the knowledge and frame of mind to engi her flotation devices from the life vest rose was wearing. Otherwise the door would have sunk enough for them to freeze to death before rescue came. Provides they knew rescue was coming after a certain time.
Considering one was a socialite, and the other a freelance artist, and both had just almost been killed multiple times… no, I don’t think they would have had the foresight to come up with the exact scenario that would have saved them both.
Cameron tested this. There was room for both on the door, but only in a very specific orientation could they both stay dry. And because she was wearing more clothes than he was, even if Jack makes it out of the water, he’s still hypothermic and won’t survive.
Edit: It’s a NatGeo doc called “Titanic: 25 years later.” They’re in a pool that’s 56 degrees F. You can find it on streaming someplace, but here’s a clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJph0aIP-U
No there wasnt.
Room for 2? Maybe. Buoyancy for 2? No.
There is a Mythbusters episode on this. Rose literally and figuratively fucked Jack.
Only if they had the knowledge and abilities (and time to come up with a plan) of two people whose job it is to come up with exactly this kind of thing.
Sure, it was possible. That doesn’t make it probable.
“Climb on the door” seems like something within their knowledge and abilities.
I take it you didn’t actually watch the mythbusters episode, then. If they both just climbed on the door they would have both died. They would have had to jury-rig a contraption using the life-preserver Rose was wearing to survive… barely.
I don’t recall the full episode but a few things stood out.
- it would be cold as hel, so properly strapping a lifevest around some flotsam seems iffy
- isn’t saltwater more buoyant or is that old fishwife’s tale? Also idk if that test body of water is salty.
I saw that movie with my dad, who spent years reading about the Titanic because he took an interest in it for some reason.
I’m not sure which one of us hated that movie more.
I’m glad that people are looking back on it these days and realizing it was just not a good movie.
If you want to see a good Titanic movie, check out A Night to Remember, made in the UK in 1958. Sure, it won’t have the dazzling special effects. It also doesn’t have a stupid as fuck plot.
If you want to see a good Titanic movie, check out A Night to Remember, made in the UK in 1958. Sure, it won’t have the dazzling special effects. It also doesn’t have a stupid as fuck plot.
Did it have a dude bouncing off a propeller while emitting the Wilhelm Scream? I didn’t think so.
If you take out the Jack/Rose love story and add some of the Californian’s scenes and a bit in the wireless room, you could edit Cameron’s Titanic down to a pretty good remake of A Night to Remember. He was clearly influenced by it, some scenes are lifted straight from the ANtR narrative even though they are known to be inaccurate (Andrews in the first class smoking room, Smith on the bridge as the ship goes down come to mind).
I like the Cameron Titanic, actually. The love story notwithstanding, it’s well worth watching for his attention to detail. The reconstruction of the ship was meticulous, and with a few notable exceptions for dramatic license, the account of the sinking is quite accurate (for the information we had at the time - we now know the breakup is incorrect, but at the time it was the best theory) and contains quite a few easter eggs for Titanic nerds. (like me)
That said… I love A Night to Remember and watch it every year on the anniversary of the sinking. The book is well worth reading, too. Walter Lord assembled his narrative based on correspondence with as many survivors as he could reach - often verbatim as they told it, and it’s really a riveting read.
Funny, I recommended A Night to Remember elsewhere in this post as a far better film.
Anyway, I agree with you on the detail. It was very impressive. I just won’t sit through the film to watch it when I can watch A Night to Remember, even if they didn’t know certain details, like the ship splitting in half.
Yeah, I haven’t actually sat down to watch the 1997 Titanic in a long time, for that reason. A Night to Remember exists. 1997 Titanic breaks in half, but in the wrong place, so they’re both wrong about it ;)
Being a huge nerd on certain topics tend to ruin the fun of watching movies.
True, but I was not a nerd on the topic. I just thought it was stupid to shoehorn a boring forbidden love subplot into a movie about the most famous fucking ship sinking of all time as if that alone wasn’t dramatic enough.
If you watch Titanic in reverse it’s about a sad lady floating on a door who idly fishes a cute boy out of the ocean and brings him onto a big fancy steamship that has conveniently sprouted up over by an iceberg, where they have steamy no-strings vacation sex until they split up because they each find new boyfriends on the ship they’d rather go to Europe with.
A much better movie!
The titanic is far better as an engineering failure story.
I prefer it as a “lol, as if” hubris from someone that read “The wreck of the Titan, or: Futility”
So romantic!
Did we watch the same movie? He tries to get on but it can’t hold both of them. That happens in the movie.
Even if the door could technically hold them both, Jack didn’t want to risk Rose’s safety by trying to climb on and weighing it down more. Dude was fucked regardless I think, skinny little guy in the icy water, forget it. Maybe if Jack had been played by Jack black, his thick body would have protected him
If Jack had survived, they would never have worked anyways. You can’t just pick up a homeless guy and make him your husband in high society, and she never would have survived being poor with him. They would have just ended up fat and old together, living in a shitty tenement building, eating boiled cabbages and yelling at each other while their 20 kids run around the ones bedroom apartment
They came from a time where they weren’t as likely to end up fat.
I’ve never watched the movie but people have definitely gotten inheritance while marrying into a “lower class” before
Genuinely thought this was going to be a political meme about Jill Stein until I clicked
I can feel it coming in the air tonight.
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