One question directly invokes Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s demand that allies stay “strong, clear, and quiet” in alignment with U.S. interests.
uh huh, nato with the usa is becoming less useful by the day, America is already failing its security promises, no need to back them since they say they’re all powerful or whatever, they’ve failed to subdue iran so far, they have limited its assistance in Ukraine, they’ve stopped police shipping, what’s the point of following them if were collectively paying for our own armys now?
Where is the line? When do we stop this nonsense?
Idk, man. What did you plan to do about it?
I don’t have money or resources to single handedly Rambo the situation away, but if a politician were within arms reach of me I’d go for the neck and eyes, consequences be damned. That’s all one person could realistically achieve.
There is a reason I said “we,” jackass. This isn’t a one person job.
Allies have balked at the move, seeing it as an attempt to strong-arm them into ideological alignment
No shit.
I expect most of thwm have pushed back, and those that didn’t have told the heavily armed bully whatever they want to hear.
Can you cut him in thirds first? I hear they make real good electric bonesaws.
I hope all our former allies realize that there’s NOTHING they can do to restore that protection during the reign of Clown King. No amount of licking his orange balls will work. They must turn away from us and move on as quickly as possible.
Why? Because he spoke in front of the UN general assembly on September 25 2018 and they laughed at him. If you think that’s just too stupid an explanation, if you think he can’t possibly be that insecure and petty, finish your nap before you reply.
A normal person would feel that humiliation and go through a cycle of emotion, maybe including an initial anger, but would ultimately self-reflect, conclude those world leaders can’t all be wrong, and strive to improve. He’s not capable.
But why does he keep making up with the dictators of the world after very public spats? Because they’ve never publicly laughed at him.
His insecurity is paired with a deep feeling of inferiority to all the worlds’ leaders. When Kim, Putin, Xi, etc. fight with him, they lower themselves to his level, so even though they’re fighting, he feels like they think of him as a peer. When someone laughs at him, he knows that they don’t respect him. He knows they can see through his preposterous facade. He can’t pretend they don’t, like he can with the dictators.
No imminent geopolitical reality exists that will snap him out of it. No amount of his rivals debasing themselves will unring that bell. No protection “deal” will ever be honored because the sting of humiliation can’t be salved with signatures.
Unfortunately for the US, Trump was elected. Twice. That means US “allies” need to assume a similar character can be elected again in 4, 8, 12… years.
Since establishing a strong independent defence and matching industry takes years, even decades, US allies would be absolutely fool to attempt any “back to normal” process after Trump.
The US arms exportations are to collapse until no one really depends on i. It’s only a matter of time before alternatives are developed for every critical piece of equipment.
US allies would be absolutely fool to attempt any “back to normal” process after Trump.
They wouldn’t be US allies to begin with if they weren’t fools
We’ve been doing Trumpism since Nixon. Even under Trump, quite a few US allies are openly in favor of this kind of leadership
Oh the US have played their fare share of dirty tricks alright to their allies, but at least, until now, that was in exchange of a military insurance. And now, that’s gone forever. One cannot ask an enemy to wait 4 years so that maybe the next POTUS would honor defense agreements.
I still think the world ought to continue laughing at trump whenever he makes a speech.
the world ought to continue laughing at trump whenever he makes a speech.
I usually hang my head and say “what is this fucking idiot yammering about this time”
I hope Americans realize Trump and the GOP have changed America’s relationship with the world, forever. There is no going back.
Germany and Italy are allowed to be important. You say “no going back” but history suggests a single generation of “normalcy” is enough.
Italy and Germany had suffered a massive millitary defeat, and had strict conditions imposed on them. And they put in the effort to rebuild the world’s trust in them.
Unless the USA is humbled to that level, and does the hard work of fixing the damage Trump and his cronies did, and fixing their country’s systems so a megalomaniac fascisst doesn’t seize full control again, the world has no choice other than to not trust them.
Yes, a generation after the people of a country realize they fucked up.
Americans don’t seem to realize that they fucked up yet.
I hope countries start kicking Americans out of the bases. Ahh one can dream.
The US is so stupid right now, they’ll probably just leave. They’re already having major issues supplying their ships in the Indian ocean, this kind of move will make that worse. But they’ll still probably do it anyway.
What the fuck is going on here? The next Democratic administration isn’t going to be able to do anything that they’re campaigning on because they’ll have their hands full fixing the mess this one is leaving.
Pretty sure that’s part of the point. Either the current admin enriches themselves fucking everyone over for the next 2-4 years, or they get replaced by lukewarm Democrat party of whom half were probably also making bank off the current corruption and this will never prosecute anyone of note, while wasting their whole term either actively embattled with Trump for the rest of his term and unfucking things for the rest.
Even if they focus on nothing other than cleaning up after Trump (and his cronies), it will take longer than a single president’s term.
Sounds like the plan is working, unfortunately.
Then let that be their platform, undoing all Trump’s bullshit. That sounds like a shoo-in.
But they won’t Biden didn’t don’t expect the next one to either.
That’s how you get a repeat 8, 12 years down the road. You need a bigger platform than trump hate
How about Trump hate, and action to strengthen our democracy to never let it happen again?
His administration is doing everything in their power to make our country theirs. Let’s fix all the loopholes and make all their tricks illegal, with ACTUAL repercussions with teeth and people to hold them accountable. His administration is the first to be so blatant with their corruption. Let’s use it as a blueprint for a path forward.
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They should assume they already lost US protection. What’s happening in the Strait of Hormuz shows how much it actually is worth. This is a geopolitical tactic as old as time, they don’t have the capacity and are losing ground so they have to see who grovels so they can find their next mark, but NATO is already losing US protection given how much they’ve signaled it - although it’s not like right now it’s anything but symbolic.
Hey so, I serve in a NATO military. Here is my statement:
Fuck Trump, fuck anyone that supports him and fuck those that allowed the USA to get this shite. Any American that opposes him, I will buy you a drink.
This is a perfect example of conservative MAGA values. They want a heirarchy system where the chosen people at the top are given special privileges and are effectively above the law. This is what .makes MAGA so foreign and hard to understand for so many people.
Know your enemy.
He won’t protect anyone regardless of loyalty.
The rest of NATO really needs to form an inner circle that excludes America. We’re a massive liability to the organization.
They could call the select group “NATO Gold”. Being excluded from a select organization that has the word ‘gold’ in its name would really piss Trump off.
You think they don’t already?
The difference is that it doesn’t have a big flashy public name. It will be an informal network of diplomats and knowledgeable command staff.
Yup. The smart move is to do this without Trump knowing you’re doing it. There is still a significant amount of dependence on the US defense industrial complex in a lot of NATO, so it would be a big gap if the rest of NATO was openly telling the US to go fuck itself (as satisfying as that would be). It makes more sense to quietly transition from US dependence over time.
You mean the country that has pissed away all of its weaponry and is currently losing a war of choice against an enemy that is, generously speaking, a 10th of its strength?
Yeah, NATO’s gonna be sad to lose it.
Everyone can see what works best for healthcare, work/life balance and quality of life. It’s not what russia, argentina and maga is doing. More restrictions and harshness is the opposite of what successful countries do and it’s obvious in data, but all these people keep going for the right wing propaganda and ignore the data on how to make a healthy civilization. More of the controlling, just obey us, keep people in scarcity and stress so they don’t realize how much the system screws them over and reject it for what’s healthier for humanity,
braise him. to an internal temperature of at least 165°f to ensure no bacteria survives
theres no meat on him. Its all fat and shit.
For safe consumption, Nazis should be cooked to an internal temperature of 1488°F. It’s what they would’ve wanted
Trump loves to bully America’s allies.
