• wuffah@lemmy.world
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    22 minutes ago

    They take our water, our power, our data, our intellectual property, and our politicians, and sell them back to us as tokens.

    Of course they would steal the very meaning of “fairness” and monetize it.

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    6 hours ago

    You’d think that something that can be copied that easily by your competitors , wouldn’t be valued at hundreds of millions of dollars.

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      6 hours ago

      It’s sort of the problem akin to robbing Ft. Knox. Most people just don’t have a bag big enough to carry it all away. The Chinese economy is one of the few big enough to support the kind of multi-billion dollar data centers that can accumulate and process data at scale.

      But even beyond that, a lot of the modern underlying technology for AI is in the process of relating the data and inferring the resulting answer. Where Altman’s whiners want to claim theft is in the raw data they’ve (illegally) scraped and compiled. Where Chinese firms have innovated is in the speed and accuracy of aggregating the data and returning useful results.

      One reason why Altman keeps saying he needs another trillion dollars for hardware and electricity is that his models are shit and his approach is largely brute-force. His overseas rivals - DeepSeek, Moonshot, Stepfun, etc - have invested far more in the actual logical design of their systems. The end result is the kind of video rendering that rendered Sora obsolete almost as soon as it was released. And the kind of advanced coding that’s scaring the shit out of the engineers at Claude and Gemini.

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    6 hours ago

    ChatGPT the app is not even in the same ballpark as the Chinese ones.

    OpenAI treats it almost like personalized social media. It saves everything, so it can pull all sorts of stuff into the context. A bunch of ancillary services are front-and-center. In other words, is sycophantic engagement-maxing. And what its actually doing under the hood is opaque.

    The Chinese services I’ve played with are more “utilitarian.” They have some great agent harnesses and tools, but generally its presented as a utility more than a “personal world” like ChatGPT, and what it’s using/doing is crystal clear.


    In other words, from a service perspective, I find this claim silly. They’re diverging, greatly.

    I’d dispute it for the underlying LLM, too, but on different grounds.