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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldM to memes@lemmy.world · 2 days ago

New names are hard, ok?

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New names are hard, ok?

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  • nexguy@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    As much as Europeans don’t like it, Americans are your children.

  • minorkeys@sh.itjust.works
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    There were no Americans when many of those places were named…

  • greenMeanHoppinMachine@lemmy.world
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    and the original European names are also pretty functional:

    I believe Amsterdam is just “River Dam”

    And York is just “Yew”, presumably named after trees that grew there. (Eburacon -> Eboracum -> Eoforwic -> Jórvík -> York)

    But New York in the United States isn’t even directly named after the English city of York, but rather a person (James Stuart) who was the Duke of York when England took control of the territory from the Dutch.

    • MathiasTCK@lemmy.world
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      I was down at the New Amsterdam

      Staring at this yellow-haired girl

      Mr. Jones strikes up a conversation

      With a black-haired flamenco dancer

      You know, she dances while his father plays guitar

  • Herding Llamas@lemmy.world
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    Sure but calling them Americans is likely, mostly, sorta true but also ignores an important fact… They were Europeans (or near descendants of) calling the places that. Often a place was named that place because it reminded them of home / to honor their parents home.

    Some other notable examples: New Zealand

    São Carlos, Brazil

    Munich, Saskatchewan

    Liverpool, New South Wales

    Nueva York, Colombia

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      True, but I think we may be the only country other than India to name a major city after another major city in the same country. Portland Oregon was named after Portland Maine

      • Herding Llamas@lemmy.world
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        Super interesting. Didn’t know that. Thanks.

      • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Don’t forget the number of places named Springfield. A quick search pulls up an article that puts the number at at least 30 different places in the US.

    • thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world
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      So is nueva York named after York or new York?

      • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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        Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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          Why’d they change it?

          • greenMeanHoppinMachine@lemmy.world
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            I can’t say…

  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
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    When you get to the south west it becomes a place in Mexico which is a place in Spain or straight up just named after a Spanish conquistador.

  • pedz@lemmy.ca
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    In Québec they were a bit more diverse and also named lots of places after saints.

  • bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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    There are also a lot of places that kept the original native names. Not as numerous as the “New [European place]” ones, but enough that you notice.

  • thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world
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    We also have a few original names, like bucksnort, horsethief basin and truth or consequences

  • BlueFootedPetey@sh.itjust.works
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    Hey hey, we did call it “New”. Well, sometimes anyway. I definitely lived in town just called York.

  • UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world
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    Just add new to the name

  • Jackcooper@lemmy.world
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    And yet we don’t have a Shitterton

    • DioramaOfShit@lemmy.world
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      Thats the S in USA

  • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works
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    Meanwhile, Alexander the Great: You’ll be me lol

  • valar@lemmy.ca
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    It was Europeans who named those places.

    • drcobaltjedi@programming.dev
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      Yeah, people from that city or place moved there and named their new home after their old home. There’s a very Dutch area of Michigan with many immigrants from the Netherlands still there. Want to know a couple town names? Holland and Zeeland.

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    But you forgot, we also have to mispronounce it then get mad if you don’t mispronounce it the right way.

    -someone that was born in New berlin, not “new berLIN”, But “new BURlin”.

    • TheEEEdiot@sh.itjust.works
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      For a better example: Versailles, Kentucky. Guess how that one is pronounced.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Shit like that is embarrassing imo

      • bitchkat@lemmy.world
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        I will go with ver-sales

        • TheEEEdiot@sh.itjust.works
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          Winner!

      • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
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        Oh God,I had an ex from Georgia that would hit me with these. Let’s go with “verse-ay-lees”.

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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          Verse-ales

    • Dicska@lemmy.world
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      How about naming the town after a city in Austria, but still the Roman way? Not just once, not just twice, but

      (EDIT: I’m having déja vu after the last time had I brought up the several dozen Springfields)

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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        That’s just how Wien is spelled in English. We also pronounce it how it’s spelled in English. No different from calling Österreich Austria

    • MoffKalast@lemmy.world
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      Strong levi-o-sa energy.

      • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
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        100% it’s all in the emphasis. It’s subtle, but just different enough that you can tell if someone is from the area based on their pronunciation.

    • innermachine@lemmy.world
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      Yea apperantly Worcester is pronounced “wis-tah”

  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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    More evidence that Egypt is European.

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