I’m lucky enough to have disposable income, I could afford to buy one without it hurting. That said, idk just off principle it feels like an insane ask. Especially considering its not doing anything a PC can’t do (as far as I know). For those not in the know, the cheapest edition will be about 1,000 USD and the most pricy will be around 1,500. To my knowledge, consoles themselves aren’t profitable historically. So, do you think even at this price point Valve is taking a hit? Do you think if this sells well it will drastically increase the cost of other consoles (completely independent of the external factor being hardware shortage due to AI). General steam machine discussion post as well, just dont be a dickhead to anyone.
Machine? No.
Frame? Yes.Would I like it to be cheaper. Of course. Are gaming consoles cheaper of course.
But I cant name 1 system or PC, which can waken when a Bluetooth Controller connects to it, and can play every game I own from the last 15 years, and every console game from the last 25 years.
Even Nintendo nickels and dimes you for this privilege, and with a one time purchase I can just remove my consoles and just use a Steam Machine, sign me up.
Not even PlayStation 5 can do what the steam machine does out of the box.
My PS4 wakes up when the bluetooth controller connects to it.
Your PS4 can’t play PS3 games, the Steam Machine can, nor can it play N64 and GameCube titles.
Homebrew can eventually fix the later, but the ps4 doesn’t have enough power for the former.
I’m not suggesting it can do those things. You said no known system or console can wake on a Bluetooth connection, I said PS4 can. I don’t have a PS5, but it probably does too.
Most consoles made since 2005 can wake from sleep on by turning on a controller.
But PCs cannot since it wasn’t a feature added to them.
However a PC can play older games, not just going back 20 years, but with emulation can play games as far back as games from the 70s.
A PS4/5 can’t do that since unless the developer needs to add support for it, or made a rerelease with their older games. So your PS4 isn’t play Super Mario Sunshine or even Brothers. Let alone the thousands of games which are classified as abandonware.
Which is what makes the steam deck alluring even at its inflated price point.
Yes. I have many PCs and laptops around the house already but I simply want it as a luxury item and to support the idea of open game consoles.
No one on Lemmy is going to be looking for an entry-level device, we’re all boomers with custom rigs already.
PC gamers already have PCs, and console gamers don’t want to spend $1000 on a console-PC. That seems to be the general vibe. It’s not looking great.
The Steam Deck came in at a competetive price, and a handheld form factor, those two things made it a success.
You’re missing an entire market segment of gadget nerds. I have no practical need for steam machine but I’m still getting it because it’s fun, it’s beautiful and it supports ideals I’m interested in. 1,000 usd is nothing for a luxury gadget.
Yeah but no way that market is big enough for valve to keep building steam machines.
Let’s wait and see but I think it very well might be big enough.
Especially considering its not doing anything a PC can’t do (as far as I know).
It’s a PC. Why wouldn’t it do anything a PC can’t do.
That being said, it does have the connections to wake the machine and your TV by acticating a connected Steam Controller
I assume you could just install a windows partition and it could be your family PC if you wanted. Or you could just use linux.
I really like the idea of being able to sit in front of my TV and play Steam games on it as if they were Playstation games. I think I’d play them a lot more than I currently do, since I wouldn’t need to go to my home office and sit where I spend most of my day already.
I have a pretty powerful PC for work purposes (image and video editing mainly) so it can handle most games fine (maybe not the absolute top end ones, I’m not sure) but I’m not going to move that into the living room.
So the Steam Machine feels like a great idea…
But I can’t help but feel that there’ll be issues with it - underpowered maybe, or lacking in features. Plus the rising cost is a pain.
Will wait to see how it turns out for early adopters. But I hope it’s a success, I really do.
I’m the same way. I have a PC but I don’t want to game at the desk anymore, and I have a deck but not everything feels right on the small screen. I was going to get the steam machine, but the price came in higher than expected, and I would also need to get a controller… I will wait and see how the release goes. But there’s some fomo, because the deck has been out of stock for a while (I couldn’t upgrade to oled)
No
Probably not, but I do have a Steam Deck and might buy a Steam Frame.
The cost is definitely a factor, but also, I’ve been building computers since the 90s and even my laptop can run everything I play already: I don’t have much need for another computer right now, even if Valve made it. If I did really need a computer, I’d probably just build a better one for cheaper and slap Bazzite or Cachy on it.
If the price goes down, I might reconsider: I do like supporting companies that do right by their customers and Valve is one of the very few that still seem to make that effort.
Nope. Way too expensive.
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Why? I already have a PC, and if I didn’t and were in the market for one I have a small one bedroom apartment, which is enough space to not have to budget every square inch. That means paying hundreds of monies more for a PC that’s less powerful just because it’s also a bit more compact would be a poor decision.
I can’t find full-time work for over a year. I can’t afford Chinese takeout. I want one, but it’s far outside my price range.
No, but i really want one. Maybe in a few years if this insane computer pricing chills out a little or if I get a lot of money somehow.
I don’t really have a use case, but I would have considered picking one up anyways sometime down the line if it was a good deal. It’s unfortunate that it’s not. I was really hoping that Valve would try to subsidize it a little to at least make the cost not as painful, but I understand that it was never an expectation for them to do so.
I think it’ll sell anyways, since there are people who don’t want to worry about the technical challenges of building their own computer, and also don’t want to spend time looking into and vetting pre-built brands. They just want a pre-built from a brand that they already know and trust. And I think the Steam Machine would fill that niche. It’s a niche of a niche of a niche, but I suspect there would be enough people like that to still sell a decent number of Steam Machines.
As for the prices of other consoles? Steam Machine is such a low volume product that other consoles would not feel a thing no matter how successful it sells
It’s not just the price, it’s the hardware. They could have gone for a slightly more powerful gpu, even in their thermal emvelope, and it’d xonfpunding they didn’t. This way it gets beaten by a PS5, on both price and performance.
Doesn’t mean I’d buy a PS5, but does mean there’s many better options, even if you want small and quiet.
