Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.

Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.

“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”

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    Damn arrogant Americans. America, after Israel, is home to the most disgusting people alive today. Zero respect for their piss-poor culture that produced these monsters.

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      Well, they’re clearly aware enough to feel threatened by it, given that that’s all the power the Vatican holds

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        The idea seems to be to use the hard power to make the soft power go away.

        It doesn’t work like that of course, but fascists are gonna fascist.

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      “Might makes right” authoritarianism has no use for it. Why bother with getting people to like you when you have all the guns? Besides, these troglodytes are a pretty unlikable bunch in the first place - it’s simply not how they navigate the world.

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        “You can do anything you like with bayonets, except sit on them” Talleyrand, circa 1815

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    In what fucking world does it make sense that i ally myself with the pope. I hate this timeline

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    That sounds like something that an envoy of Sauron would say. Does Colby really think he’s one of the good guys?

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    “The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”

    Yes, you have lots of guns and bombs and you’re very big and strong. But the Pope was offering a moral criticism. You know, about morality, doing the right thing. Have you or your “Christian” colleagues ever heard of it? Turns out it doesn’t often align with who is most eager and equipped to kill anyone who looks at them the wrong way. Even Jesus (heard of him?) had a thing or two to say about that.

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      It’s funny:

      The end-times prophecies are clear-as-day, now, & they WHO ARE WALKING INTO IT are ignoring the consequences??

      Here’s the 1st-Seal thing, with the Time of Conquering, & the Conqueror ( Trump’s ONLY addiction )

      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+6%3A1-2&version=CJB

      & here’s the prophecy about Trump’s “mortal head wound” & pending “miracle cure”…

      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+13%3A3&version=CJB


      The funny part?

      IF their 2nd Coming appears … he’d be war-incarnate against them ( the guy-on-white-horse-with-double-edged-blade-of-Cutting-True-Speech-projecting-from-his-mouth ), fighting “the beast”, which they hold to be “lord”…

      they don’t even know their own prophecies.

      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+19%3A11-15&version=CJB

      THAT guy would be the LAST thing those abomination-loyal ones would want to see coming into our world!

      ( caveat: John of Patmos was filtering everything through his unconscious-mind, so the distortions are … kinda rampant. Jung & I both experienced the same kind of distortions, in our VISION-dreams. I’ve no idea if that King of Kings guy is 1st-Seal, aka The Great Filter’s 1st Yang Stage, XOR if it’s later in humankind’s “cell-division”, splitting between the murder-life-for-authority’s-lordhood kind & the LivingSpirit-loyal kind, the WAR stage, which should begin in 7-ish years, after the Regional Consolidation Time is finished, or if it’s in the 3rd stage, the no-food-chain-left stage, where people are living off of greenhouses like Silent Running ( movie ) had, but on Earth…

      The fundamental point, though, is that anybody doing what Hegseth’s doing, to bring the 2nd Coming … pouring “blood and destruction” into the world … is warring against that guy in the 3rd biblical-reference, above. )

      Interesting Times!

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      PS: I’m calling this pope Good Pope Leo, because from what I can see, he is: & I’m not Catholic.

      _ /\ _

      PPS: I just read the beginning of that chapter, & it looks-like that’s the stuff for the 2070’s, NOT for this end of “the tribulation”/“armageddon”/The Great Filter, so … no point in getting our hopes up.

      _ /\ _

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    I remember in the last book of the Bible it always talks about the very Christian one world government.

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    LOL

    It’s fascinating that the Pope gets threatened for being critical of Donald, and not, you know, facilitating an international child trafficking ring.

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    I’m kind of waiting for: God has decided to back Trump for now but patience wearing thin or some such similar ridiculousness in this reality.