You say that but the other team went far into your capitol and they looked well nourished enough.

Speedrunning to tyranny… things are moving fast indeed in these days and age…

Depends on the jurisdiction and the case specifics. In europe, under GDPR the consequence we (my employer) are the most terrified about is an injunction to stop any further processing of given data for a purpose that would be deemed illegitimate.

You’re not coming back from that one…

And that would typically be on top of the fine which would be to some extent « cost of doing business » indeed.

You’re not fucking Gandalf, stop answering questions by more questions.

This; « complies with most of the current human health guideline values set by various authorities in the EU, even with a high daily consumption of 2 litres » for someone not professionally involved means « is ok ». The authorities in the EU literally say « it complies ».

There are additional limits but from what I can read those re precautions not necessarily coming from health guidelines but from other sciences. Most likely very welcomed precautions though but it still says « complies today ».

Also you are avoiding my main concern which is « then what should I do? ».

We can play semantics the whole afternoon and in the end I agree with the idea that unwanted chemicals must be removed from my food & drinks; but then what? We stop drinking ?

Nope, nothing of the sort. I’m just wondering why the tone of the message from the guardian isn’t in line with the source it cites. They literally say « is ok » so what should be the take away?

Limits are too loose? If so what are good limits to look for? Is it a call to drop bottled water? But then what about city water which isn’t measured as far as I can read; is it better? (I doubt given late incidents in Belgium where water tables were contaminated by local industries).

So what can I do? I’m growing incredibly tired of drama for which nothing can be done at my level.

Taken from like the 3 rd link in the guardian article and it leads to this page; https://www.pan-europe.info/resources/briefings/2024/12/tfa-‘forever-chemical’-european-mineral-waters?utm_source=Laposta&utm_campaign=Press+Release+32&utm_medium=email

I’m starting to doubt my reading capabilities. I went through the source and what I read was « Nevertheless, each of the mineral waters tested - even the one with the highest measured contamination of 3,200 ng/l - complies with most of the current human health guideline values set by various authorities in the EU ».

So it is contaminated but within acceptable limits. Traces beside a few brands that have larger traces still within those limits.

That on top with the fact that it seems to only be about bottled water which, at least in Belgium, is neither necessary nor that popular around me, makes me wonder what’s the call to action here.

Maybe we could stop giving a platform to the crazies that foster those stories. Both of them; the idiots that see ai artefacts everywhere but also the fear mongers of the sort of the blog here. It reminds me of « be afraid of rpgs » in the 80ies and then « videos games are going to turn teens in murderers » in the 90ies… every new tech has curves for their maturity, cultural & societal fit. We just so happen to be at the shitty times for ai. But eventually the fad will go away, most crazies will move to something else and attention whores will also find a new niche.

Difficult debate. Not sure the traditional media are so much better. I personally think that educating teens to handle whatever medias would be preferable to a blanked ban. It’s going to be interesting to see how it will evolve.

Yeah it’s quite a game of whack a mole to get rid of all those memes subs and their bot content… it’s actually worse than on reddit it seems.

Yeah not shit that’s the absolute worse. Where are you from if you don’t mind me asking ? Either the world is turning to shit or I’m getting old and it’s showing because it all seems that it was « better before » when it comes to freedom.

Better but unreasonable. What about taxes, administration, health… a functional government is the desired state imho. With some overseen transparency (thanks europe for that) I’m starting to think we’re getting there to some extent for our data lives here. Now apparently not where you’re from… but that would be the problem. Albeit not an easy one to fix.

That relies on a country’s goodwill to implement such a idea. In europe with gdpr we are kind of going there and it’s already a massive mess. I find also kind of hard to define ownership; where does it ends? Is derivative data one’s ownership ? When properly anonymised? Plenty of fun in the field really.

Sad but unrelated to more reasonable governments providing certificates to their citizens. My comment only applies to citizens of reasonable governments.

The same could be said about all central certificate authorities… In the end trust is always contextual I guess.

We have that already in Belgium. It’s been a while. It’s used to authenticate for government services or sign stuff. Why the hate?

Belgium, southern part. So all in all our standard of living is good. Just less than previously :-/

Was putting 10 hours a day in my work before all that. Still putting the same hours in. Have obviously less purchase power. I don’t see no free time in this… I even had to learn some crafts to survive the inflation so it’s even less “me time” than before…